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(Dilip)

5/8/2006 11:40:00 AM


Don Box posted some interesting questions on Ruby. I thought I'd give
them a wider audience here.

http://pluralsight.com/blogs/dbox/archive/2006/05/08/...
http://pluralsight.com/blogs/dbox/archive/2006/05/08/...

13 Answers

analyst41

11/14/2009 11:43:00 PM

0

On Nov 14, 2:37 pm, bak yim sing <b...@bys.com> wrote:
> Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> > "bak yim sing" <b...@bys.com> wrote in message
> >news:4AFDB32D.8DC8054C@bys.com...
> > > Mr Lee, read the Hindu Bible - Bhagavad Gita. Hindus can
> > > do good and achieve much without much material incentives.
> > > It is their dharma (sacred duties) to do it not the fruits of
> > > action
>
> > > The book is only about 70-80 pages. Not a difficult read
> > > but full of Hindu philosophies.
>
> > The Gita is only a small narration in one of the kandas (sections) of the
> > epic Mahabharata.
>
> A lot of the Caitanya Schools of Hinduism based their philosophies
> exclusively on the Gita and Bhagavata Purana.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaitanya_...
>
> So the Gita philosophies is very much representing a lot of Hindu philosophies.
>
> I happened to own a complete set of the Maha-Bharata videos.
> Incidentally, Bharata is the Indian name for India in a lot of
> Indian languages.
>
> > While it has many sound literary and philosophical
> > merits, it is not regarded in scriptural terms, for it lacks the necessary
> > quality of being beyond the scope of time,
>
> Is it that when Arjuna and Krishna doing their philosophical
> discussion on the battle field, the time stopped. That means the
> philosophy is timeless.

What Krishna was supposed to have preached to Arjuna is only a
rediscovery of a timeless truth. Thats why the truth of Sanatana
Dharma is never fixed in the form of an unalterable text - continual
rediscovery presents the same truth in different outward forms in
different epochs.

The truth is so powerful that India's outward degradation and having
been vulnerable to conquest by invaders for much of its history takes
little away from it.

>
>
>
> > as it is confined to a particular
> > group in a particular age.  The Puranas and the Vedas/Vedantas have
> > scriptural quality.  The Gita is important as aspects from the Puranas and
> > the Vedas/Vedantas are found in this primarily literary and historical work.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

ltlee1

11/15/2009 1:04:00 AM

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On Nov 14, 6:12 pm, bak yim sing <b...@bys.com> wrote:
> ltlee1 wrote:
> > On Nov 13, 11:12 pm, "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > > "bak yim sing" <b...@bys.com> wrote in messagenews:4AFDB32D.8DC8054C@bys.com...
>
> > > > Mr Lee, read the Hindu Bible - Bhagavad Gita. Hindus can
> > > > do good and achieve much without much material incentives.
> > > > It is their dharma (sacred duties) to do it not the fruits of
> > > > action
>
> > > > The book is only about 70-80 pages. Not a difficult read
> > > > but full of Hindu philosophies.
>
> > > The Gita is only a small narration in one of the kandas (sections) of the
> > > epic Mahabharata.  While it has many sound literary and philosophical
> > > merits, it is not regarded in scriptural terms, for it lacks the necessary
> > > quality of being beyond the scope of time, as it is confined to a particular
> > > group in a particular age.
>
> > In physics, time, as denote by t, is characterized by the B series.
> > Physics is beyond time and age. Metaphysics, or philosophy is, never beyond the
> > scope of time. May be Hinduism's effort to go beyond the scope of time gives
> > rise to the problem described by the article in the beginning post.
>
> Mr Lee, you don't understand Indian philosophies. As displayed in
> Hinduism and Buddhism, time is timeless. That's why Dalai Lama
> says what he cannot accomplish in his life time, it will be continued
> in another lifetime. The reward for your hard work, if it does not come
> in this life time, it may come to you in your next life time. Not much
> different from the Judeo-Chritian-Muslim philosophy that you reward
> may come from God in heaven after you die. In fact, in Hinduism, the
> fruits of action(reward or material gain) are not to be cherished. You
> do something because it is your dharma(sacred duty) to do it. If you
> were a plumber, to do good plumbing is your duty, whether you make
> money or not is secondary. If you run a company, to run a good company
> is your duty, whether the personal reward to you is enough is secondary.
> This whole philosophy is expounded in Bhagavad Gita. In both hinduism
> and buddhism, dharma(different interpretations though between the two
> philosophies on the concept of dharma) sustains the working of the universe.
>
> > Hinduism is like a video game with infinite levels. Theoretically, one can play the
> > same game
> > until kingdom comes. However, not many wants to do that.
>
> If you don't do that, you become sorrowful even in your very lifetime
> inspite of the fame and wealth you may have accumulated. You may
> not understand what I am talking about , read the Gita and come
> back to me.

The Chinee people know that time is timeless. I had written about that
before.
And how things can be achieved through time. Try the following post if
you are
interested.

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.taiwan/msg/6fc6a59d93e6...

One big difference is that the Chinese version allows for change. In
contrast,
reincarnation or metampsychosis is just a way for the powerful to fix
the game to
their advantages.
>
>
>
>
>
> > > The Puranas and the Vedas/Vedantas have
> > > scriptural quality.  The Gita is important as aspects from the Puranas and
> > > the Vedas/Vedantas are found in this primarily literary and historical work.
>
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

bak yim sing

11/15/2009 8:50:00 PM

0

ltlee1 wrote:
> On Nov 14, 6:12 pm, bak yim sing <b...@bys.com> wrote:
>> ltlee1 wrote:
>>> On Nov 13, 11:12 pm, "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>> "bak yim sing" <b...@bys.com> wrote in messagenews:4AFDB32D.8DC8054C@bys.com...
>>>>> Mr Lee, read the Hindu Bible - Bhagavad Gita. Hindus can
>>>>> do good and achieve much without much material incentives.
>>>>> It is their dharma (sacred duties) to do it not the fruits of
>>>>> action
>>>>> The book is only about 70-80 pages. Not a difficult read
>>>>> but full of Hindu philosophies.
>>>> The Gita is only a small narration in one of the kandas (sections) of the
>>>> epic Mahabharata. While it has many sound literary and philosophical
>>>> merits, it is not regarded in scriptural terms, for it lacks the necessary
>>>> quality of being beyond the scope of time, as it is confined to a particular
>>>> group in a particular age.
>>> In physics, time, as denote by t, is characterized by the B series.
>>> Physics is beyond time and age. Metaphysics, or philosophy is, never beyond the
>>> scope of time. May be Hinduism's effort to go beyond the scope of time gives
>>> rise to the problem described by the article in the beginning post.
>> Mr Lee, you don't understand Indian philosophies. As displayed in
>> Hinduism and Buddhism, time is timeless. That's why Dalai Lama
>> says what he cannot accomplish in his life time, it will be continued
>> in another lifetime. The reward for your hard work, if it does not come
>> in this life time, it may come to you in your next life time. Not much
>> different from the Judeo-Chritian-Muslim philosophy that you reward
>> may come from God in heaven after you die. In fact, in Hinduism, the
>> fruits of action(reward or material gain) are not to be cherished. You
>> do something because it is your dharma(sacred duty) to do it. If you
>> were a plumber, to do good plumbing is your duty, whether you make
>> money or not is secondary. If you run a company, to run a good company
>> is your duty, whether the personal reward to you is enough is secondary.
>> This whole philosophy is expounded in Bhagavad Gita. In both hinduism
>> and buddhism, dharma(different interpretations though between the two
>> philosophies on the concept of dharma) sustains the working of the universe.
>>
>>> Hinduism is like a video game with infinite levels. Theoretically, one can play the
>>> same game
>>> until kingdom comes. However, not many wants to do that.
>> If you don't do that, you become sorrowful even in your very lifetime
>> inspite of the fame and wealth you may have accumulated. You may
>> not understand what I am talking about , read the Gita and come
>> back to me.
>
> The Chinee people know that time is timeless. I had written about that
> before. And how things can be achieved through time. Try the following post if
> you are interested.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.taiwan/msg/6fc6a59d93e6...

I don't know why you make such a big deal about time as if it physically
and objectively exists. You better spend some time to brush up your
knowledge of Einstein's general theory of relativity.

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/06...
http://library.thinkquest.org/25886/ywa...

Gravity is warping space and extended to time.


> One big difference is that the Chinese version allows for change. In
> contrast,reincarnation or metampsychosis is just a way for the powerful to fix
> the game to their advantages.

Well, you have to write a big thesis to prove this point how indian
philosophies so and chinese philosophies not. And even if so, then
so what.

bak yim sing

11/15/2009 8:52:00 PM

0

analyst41@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 14, 2:37 pm, bak yim sing <b...@bys.com> wrote:
>> Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>> "bak yim sing" <b...@bys.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4AFDB32D.8DC8054C@bys.com...
>>>> Mr Lee, read the Hindu Bible - Bhagavad Gita. Hindus can
>>>> do good and achieve much without much material incentives.
>>>> It is their dharma (sacred duties) to do it not the fruits of
>>>> action
>>>> The book is only about 70-80 pages. Not a difficult read
>>>> but full of Hindu philosophies.
>>> The Gita is only a small narration in one of the kandas (sections) of the
>>> epic Mahabharata.
>> A lot of the Caitanya Schools of Hinduism based their philosophies
>> exclusively on the Gita and Bhagavata Purana.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaitanya_...
>>
>> So the Gita philosophies is very much representing a lot of Hindu philosophies.
>>
>> I happened to own a complete set of the Maha-Bharata videos.
>> Incidentally, Bharata is the Indian name for India in a lot of
>> Indian languages.
>>
>>> While it has many sound literary and philosophical
>>> merits, it is not regarded in scriptural terms, for it lacks the necessary
>>> quality of being beyond the scope of time,
>> Is it that when Arjuna and Krishna doing their philosophical
>> discussion on the battle field, the time stopped. That means the
>> philosophy is timeless.
>
> What Krishna was supposed to have preached to Arjuna is only a
> rediscovery of a timeless truth. Thats why the truth of Sanatana
> Dharma is never fixed in the form of an unalterable text - continual
> rediscovery presents the same truth in different outward forms in
> different epochs.
>
> The truth is so powerful that India's outward degradation and having
> been vulnerable to conquest by invaders for much of its history takes
> little away from it.
>

I could not have agreed more.

Arindam Banerjee

11/15/2009 9:33:00 PM

0

On Nov 15, 9:10 am, ltlee1 <ltl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 13, 11:12 pm, "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > "bak yim sing" <b...@bys.com> wrote in messagenews:4AFDB32D.8DC8054C@bys.com...
>
> > > Mr Lee, read the Hindu Bible - Bhagavad Gita. Hindus can
> > > do good and achieve much without much material incentives.
> > > It is their dharma (sacred duties) to do it not the fruits of
> > > action
>
> > > The book is only about 70-80 pages. Not a difficult read
> > > but full of Hindu philosophies.
>
> > The Gita is only a small narration in one of the kandas (sections) of the
> > epic Mahabharata.  While it has many sound literary and philosophical
> > merits, it is not regarded in scriptural terms, for it lacks the necessary
> > quality of being beyond the scope of time, as it is confined to a particular
> > group in a particular age.  
>
> In physics, time, as denote by t, is characterized by the B series.
> Physics is
> beyond time and age.

The (correct) understanding of physics very much within time and
place. Physics is a particular kind of philosophy.

Metaphysics, or philosophy is, never beyond the
> scope of
> time.

Metaphysics is not philosophy; it is the source and direction of
philosophy. Metaphysics by definition is beyond the scope of time and
everyday knowledge, for it is both the source and direction underlying
all comprehension. There could be various different metaphysics,
relating to various social groups. Some are more developed, some are
less developed. Some are more dominant, others that could be more
refined are latent. Metaphysics relates to revelation from Divine
Grace; only the Poet has genuine access to Metaphysics.

Philosophy is simply the love of knowledge and the wisdom resulting
from same, and a philosopher is he who can express that as coherently
as possible.

Cheers,

Arindam Banerjee.


May be Hinduism's effort to go beyond the scope of time gives
> rise to the
> problem described by the article in the beginning post. Hinduism is
> like a video
> game with infinite levels. Theoretically, one can play the same game
> until kingdom
> comes. However, not many wants to do that.
>
>
>
> > The Puranas and the Vedas/Vedantas have
> > scriptural quality.  The Gita is important as aspects from the Puranas and
> > the Vedas/Vedantas are found in this primarily literary and historical work.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Arindam Banerjee.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

harmony

11/17/2009 6:43:00 PM

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"bys" <bys@bys.com> wrote in message
news:hdppkj$ldj$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> analyst41@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Nov 14, 2:37 pm, bak yim sing <b...@bys.com> wrote:
>>> Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>> "bak yim sing" <b...@bys.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4AFDB32D.8DC8054C@bys.com...
>>>>> Mr Lee, read the Hindu Bible - Bhagavad Gita. Hindus can
>>>>> do good and achieve much without much material incentives.
>>>>> It is their dharma (sacred duties) to do it not the fruits of
>>>>> action
>>>>> The book is only about 70-80 pages. Not a difficult read
>>>>> but full of Hindu philosophies.
>>>> The Gita is only a small narration in one of the kandas (sections) of
>>>> the
>>>> epic Mahabharata.
>>> A lot of the Caitanya Schools of Hinduism based their philosophies
>>> exclusively on the Gita and Bhagavata Purana.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaitanya_...
>>>
>>> So the Gita philosophies is very much representing a lot of Hindu
>>> philosophies.
>>>
>>> I happened to own a complete set of the Maha-Bharata videos.
>>> Incidentally, Bharata is the Indian name for India in a lot of
>>> Indian languages.
>>>
>>>> While it has many sound literary and philosophical
>>>> merits, it is not regarded in scriptural terms, for it lacks the
>>>> necessary
>>>> quality of being beyond the scope of time,
>>> Is it that when Arjuna and Krishna doing their philosophical
>>> discussion on the battle field, the time stopped. That means the
>>> philosophy is timeless.
>>
>> What Krishna was supposed to have preached to Arjuna is only a
>> rediscovery of a timeless truth. Thats why the truth of Sanatana
>> Dharma is never fixed in the form of an unalterable text - continual
>> rediscovery presents the same truth in different outward forms in
>> different epochs.
>>
>> The truth is so powerful that India's outward degradation and having
>> been vulnerable to conquest by invaders for much of its history takes
>> little away from it.
>>
>
> I could not have agreed more.

you could have. afghanistan is gone, so is pakistan and bangladesh, so is
kashmir and now bengal and kerala. arindam and daroowalas are half gone.


ltlee1

11/18/2009 2:01:00 AM

0

On Nov 15, 3:50?pm, bys <b...@bys.com> wrote:
> ltlee1 wrote:
> > On Nov 14, 6:12 pm, bak yim sing <b...@bys.com> wrote:
> >> ltlee1 wrote:
> >>> On Nov 13, 11:12 pm, "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >>>> "bak yim sing" <b...@bys.com> wrote in messagenews:4AFDB32D.8DC8054C@bys.com...
> >>>>> Mr Lee, read the Hindu Bible - Bhagavad Gita. Hindus can
> >>>>> do good and achieve much without much material incentives.
> >>>>> It is their dharma (sacred duties) to do it not the fruits of
> >>>>> action
> >>>>> The book is only about 70-80 pages. Not a difficult read
> >>>>> but full of Hindu philosophies.
> >>>> The Gita is only a small narration in one of the kandas (sections) of the
> >>>> epic Mahabharata. ?While it has many sound literary and philosophical
> >>>> merits, it is not regarded in scriptural terms, for it lacks the necessary
> >>>> quality of being beyond the scope of time, as it is confined to a particular
> >>>> group in a particular age.
> >>> In physics, time, as denote by t, is characterized by the B series.
> >>> Physics is beyond time and age. Metaphysics, or philosophy is, never beyond the
> >>> scope of time. May be Hinduism's effort to go beyond the scope of time gives
> >>> rise to the problem described by the article in the beginning post.
> >> Mr Lee, you don't understand Indian philosophies. As displayed in
> >> Hinduism and Buddhism, time is timeless. That's why Dalai Lama
> >> says what he cannot accomplish in his life time, it will be continued
> >> in another lifetime. The reward for your hard work, if it does not come
> >> in this life time, it may come to you in your next life time. Not much
> >> different from the Judeo-Chritian-Muslim philosophy that you reward
> >> may come from God in heaven after you die. In fact, in Hinduism, the
> >> fruits of action(reward or material gain) are not to be cherished. You
> >> do something because it is your dharma(sacred duty) to do it. If you
> >> were a plumber, to do good plumbing is your duty, whether you make
> >> money or not is secondary. If you run a company, to run a good company
> >> is your duty, whether the personal reward to you is enough is secondary.
> >> This whole philosophy is expounded in Bhagavad Gita. In both hinduism
> >> and buddhism, dharma(different interpretations though between the two
> >> philosophies on the concept of dharma) sustains the working of the universe.
>
> >>> Hinduism is like a video game with infinite levels. Theoretically, one can play the
> >>> same game
> >>> until kingdom comes. However, not many wants to do that.
> >> If you don't do that, you become sorrowful even in your very lifetime
> >> inspite of the fame and wealth you may have accumulated. You may
> >> not understand what I am talking about , read the Gita and come
> >> back to me.
>
> > The Chinee people know that time is timeless. I had written about that
> > before. And how things can be achieved through time. Try the following post if
> > you are interested.
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.taiwan/msg/6fc6a......
>
> I don't know why you make such a big deal about time as if it physically
> and objectively exists. You better spend some time to brush up your
> knowledge of Einstein's general theory of relativity.
>
> http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/060407a.htmlhttp://library.thinkquest.org/25886/ywa...
>
> Gravity is warping space and extended to time.

>
> > One big difference is that the Chinese version allows for change. In
> > contrast,reincarnation or metampsychosis is just a way for the powerful to fix
> > the game to their advantages.
>
> Well, you have to write a big thesis to prove this point how indian
> philosophies so and chinese philosophies not. And even if so, then
> so what.

Why don't you read the article portion of it quoted in the beginning
post and
try to understand why the Indian author wrote the following:

"... the disintegration of Hinduism did not throw up a new thought-
system
secularizing action and Nature, and supporting it by the notion of
achievement as the essential motive- force of life. The reason for
this can
be simply stated : When the life goes out of a tradition which
systematically
and relentlessly d?values and discards the highest achievement at ail
levels,
its heirs are left in a tragicomic situation : they are incapable of
the higher,
and indiff?rent to the lower. (The indiff?rence is principial :
concretely it is
manifested in the mental and moral laziness of the people). "

Please try to understand what A.K. Saran was talking. After that, you
can
either agree with him or disagree with him. If you disagree, we can
then
discuss how A.K. Saran is wrong and you are right.


> - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

ltlee1

11/18/2009 2:28:00 AM

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On Nov 17, 3:15?pm, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "ltlee1" <ltl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:70fac6cd-edaa-4941-8de7-f4997a5f7779@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 13, 11:12 pm, "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "bak yim sing" <b...@bys.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:4AFDB32D.8DC8054C@bys.com...
>
> > > Mr Lee, read the Hindu Bible - Bhagavad Gita. Hindus can
> > > do good and achieve much without much material incentives.
> > > It is their dharma (sacred duties) to do it not the fruits of
> > > action
>
> > > The book is only about 70-80 pages. Not a difficult read
> > > but full of Hindu philosophies.
>
> > The Gita is only a small narration in one of the kandas (sections) of the
> > epic Mahabharata. While it has many sound literary and philosophical
> > merits, it is not regarded in scriptural terms, for it lacks the necessary
> > quality of being beyond the scope of time, as it is confined to a
> > particular
> > group in a particular age.
>
> <<In physics, time, as denote by t, is characterized by the B series.
> Physics is
> beyond time and age. >>
>
> i think there was no time before the big bang when bhagavaan brahma said
> o........m.
>
> <<<Metaphysics, or philosophy is, never beyond the
> scope of
> time. May be Hinduism's effort to go beyond the scope of time gives
> rise to the
> problem described by the article in the beginning post. Hinduism is
> like a video
> game with infinite levels. >>>
>
> interesting. what's islam and kirastanism like? and what's marxism like?

Christianity began with Jesus. If Jesus was wrong, Christianity would
fall with
it. In contrast, Hinduism "has no founder and event inaugurating its
is merely
an aspect of the awareness of eternity and consequently indifference
to history
which permeate Hinduism."



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>
> - Show quoted text -

Arindam Banerjee

11/18/2009 6:41:00 AM

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"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4b02eea5$0$5347$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>
> "bys" <bys@bys.com> wrote in message
> news:hdppkj$ldj$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>> analyst41@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Nov 14, 2:37 pm, bak yim sing <b...@bys.com> wrote:
>>>> Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>>>>> "bak yim sing" <b...@bys.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4AFDB32D.8DC8054C@bys.com...
>>>>>> Mr Lee, read the Hindu Bible - Bhagavad Gita. Hindus can
>>>>>> do good and achieve much without much material incentives.
>>>>>> It is their dharma (sacred duties) to do it not the fruits of
>>>>>> action
>>>>>> The book is only about 70-80 pages. Not a difficult read
>>>>>> but full of Hindu philosophies.
>>>>> The Gita is only a small narration in one of the kandas (sections) of
>>>>> the
>>>>> epic Mahabharata.
>>>> A lot of the Caitanya Schools of Hinduism based their philosophies
>>>> exclusively on the Gita and Bhagavata Purana.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaitanya_...
>>>>
>>>> So the Gita philosophies is very much representing a lot of Hindu
>>>> philosophies.
>>>>
>>>> I happened to own a complete set of the Maha-Bharata videos.
>>>> Incidentally, Bharata is the Indian name for India in a lot of
>>>> Indian languages.
>>>>
>>>>> While it has many sound literary and philosophical
>>>>> merits, it is not regarded in scriptural terms, for it lacks the
>>>>> necessary
>>>>> quality of being beyond the scope of time,
>>>> Is it that when Arjuna and Krishna doing their philosophical
>>>> discussion on the battle field, the time stopped. That means the
>>>> philosophy is timeless.
>>>
>>> What Krishna was supposed to have preached to Arjuna is only a
>>> rediscovery of a timeless truth. Thats why the truth of Sanatana
>>> Dharma is never fixed in the form of an unalterable text - continual
>>> rediscovery presents the same truth in different outward forms in
>>> different epochs.
>>>
>>> The truth is so powerful that India's outward degradation and having
>>> been vulnerable to conquest by invaders for much of its history takes
>>> little away from it.
>>>
>>
>> I could not have agreed more.
>
> you could have. afghanistan is gone, so is pakistan and bangladesh, so is
> kashmir and now bengal and kerala. arindam and daroowalas are half gone.

I have fully gone, dear bundree. Far away from all the mentally and morally
lazy people led by the abominable gargs - of whom you are a very worthy
representative. No jhoom barabar jhoom sharabi for you and other gandians,
I am afraid. Here, now, life flows like a lovely dream...


ltlee1

11/18/2009 5:49:00 PM

0

On Nov 18, 11:59?am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "ltlee1" <ltl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5eec4731-71cc-4b46-be68-97e2d98505ce@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 17, 3:15?pm, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
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> > "ltlee1" <ltl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >news:70fac6cd-edaa-4941-8de7-f4997a5f7779@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> > On Nov 13, 11:12 pm, "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
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> > > "bak yim sing" <b...@bys.com> wrote in
> > > messagenews:4AFDB32D.8DC8054C@bys.com...
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> > > > Mr Lee, read the Hindu Bible - Bhagavad Gita. Hindus can
> > > > do good and achieve much without much material incentives.
> > > > It is their dharma (sacred duties) to do it not the fruits of
> > > > action
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> > > > The book is only about 70-80 pages. Not a difficult read
> > > > but full of Hindu philosophies.
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> > > The Gita is only a small narration in one of the kandas (sections) of
> > > the
> > > epic Mahabharata. While it has many sound literary and philosophical
> > > merits, it is not regarded in scriptural terms, for it lacks the
> > > necessary
> > > quality of being beyond the scope of time, as it is confined to a
> > > particular
> > > group in a particular age.
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> > <<In physics, time, as denote by t, is characterized by the B series.
> > Physics is
> > beyond time and age. >>
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> > i think there was no time before the big bang when bhagavaan brahma said
> > o........m.
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> > <<<Metaphysics, or philosophy is, never beyond the
> > scope of
> > time. May be Hinduism's effort to go beyond the scope of time gives
> > rise to the
> > problem described by the article in the beginning post. Hinduism is
> > like a video
> > game with infinite levels. >>>
>
> > interesting. what's islam and kirastanism like? and what's marxism like?
>
> <<<Christianity began with Jesus. If Jesus was wrong, Christianity would
> fall with
> it. ?In contrast, Hinduism "has no founder and event inaugurating its
> is merely
> an aspect of the awareness of eternity and consequently indifference
> to history
> which permeate Hinduism.">>>
>
> did you probably mean to say "if the bible is wrong..." ?in place where you
> say "if jesus was wrong .."?
> because it would be impossible to verify what jesus said or did except thr'
> bible which supposedly is the final autority on jesus, right?
>
> further, xitianity has already fallen in much of europe. so, is bible/jesus
> wrong?
> now, how would the non-white xtians in asia feel now that the whites, the
> original dogged propagandists and crusaders and conquistadoras of xtiainty,
> are walking away from kirastanism? would asian not feel stupid, cheated,
> left holding the bag?
>
> btw, you have made no comment on mohamadism and marxism. why?

Actually, "Paul" passed through my mind. He was the one who made
Christianity Christianity. Concerning Jesus, there are literature
about
him using material independent of the Chrsitian bible. THE JESUS
DYNASTY by James Tabor is one such example. Anyway, AK Saran's
article treated Chrsitianity, Islam and Buddhist as a group in
opposite
to Hinduism. The article also mentioned Marx. You can look it up
yourself.