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Barrie Jarman

3/3/2006 10:26:00 AM

Im new (this week) to ruby and would like to know what IDE's people are
using.
Ive tried Radrails which seems very buggy and poorly designed.

I use Zend Studio for my php developement and would like something similar
with autocompletion, linking to methods in other files etc...

thanks



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18 Answers

Kev Jackson

3/3/2006 10:34:00 AM

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>Ive tried Radrails which seems very buggy and poorly designed.
>
>
>
RadRails is based on Eclipse RCP (Rich Client Platform) - it's a Java
code base and if you're not used to Java apps in general, Eclipse (Java)
IDE or prior to that VisualAge, then it can certainly be a bit wierd

>I use Zend Studio for my php developement and would like something similar
>with autocompletion, linking to methods in other files etc...
>
>
vim, emacs, TextMate (OSX only), Scite. You don't *need* an IDE to
actually program in Ruby (or indeed in any language), sure it's nice to
be able to press a '.' and have a list of methods pop up, but it's not
too much of a chore to read the RDoc, use ri or read the docs when you
want to learn something.

All the developers here (at work) would be lost without an IDE, it's
cultural and perhaps generational? - it's a bad way to be as you can't
be productive when you go on site and have nothing but vi over a vpn
connection. I'd recommend sticking with the most basic editor (syntax
highlighting etc) and learning through the docs over an IDE, you'll also
appreciate the command line tools that are provided more that way.

2c

Kev

Mc Osten

3/3/2006 11:56:00 AM

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On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 19:33:40 +0900, Kev Jackson wrote:

> All the developers here (at work) would be lost without an IDE, it's
> cultural and perhaps generational?

Probably more cultural than generational. My fellows programmer and I have
grown up in the unix world (even if we are quite young, most of us still at
the university) and in average we tend to prefer editors.

Some of us like Emacs, some vim, some TextMate (me, for example). I just
find frustrating to use heavyweight applications (I'm thing about the Java
behemoth IDE out there) or something that does not give me full control.
The only IDE I like to use is XCode, that is probably the more "editor-ish"
IDE out there.

But I think there is another factor: the language. Ruby (or Python in our
case, most of us code in Python) is quite linear. Documentation is well
done and *small*. I'm new to ruby, still I remember quite a lot of methods
and object, I don't really need autocompletion. And it's compact. You write
significantly less code.
C is not that compact, but it's quite easy. The ANSI + POSIX functions are
just a few (not /that/ few, but nothing like the full Java library).
Moreover you have excellent cli help in the form of man.

Using an IDE in Java can be useful. It's too verbose to really type all the
stuff by hand (in production I mean).
PHP is worse: no namespaces... so xsl_xltprocessor_transform_to_xml.
Moreover every module etc has it's own naming convention. I understand an
IDE can get over poor language design.


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Alexander Fleck

3/3/2006 12:40:00 PM

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hi,
I' m using FreeRIDE. My goal was to get an IDE for free that' s portable. I wanted to use it either on linux and windows. I like it, when an my environment for developing software looks and feels the same regardless on which platform. I don' t want to use millions of editors or IDEs. I thin vim is a good solution too, but I needed a few weeks to get really into it, I mean really into it.

Alex.

Curt Hibbs

3/3/2006 1:48:00 PM

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On 3/3/06, Alexander Fleck <Fleck@schleissheimer.de> wrote:
> hi,
> I' m using FreeRIDE. My goal was to get an IDE for free that' s portable. I wanted to use it either on linux and windows. I like it, when an my environment for developing software looks and feels the same regardless on which platform. I don' t want to use millions of editors or IDEs. I thin vim is a good solution too, but I needed a few weeks to get really into it, I mean really into it.

I use FreeRIDE also, which has the advantage of being both open source
and written in Ruby.

If you want commercial IDE, check out ArachnoRuby and ActiveState's Komodo.

Curt

Rudolfs Osins

3/3/2006 1:54:00 PM

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I'm using SCITE under Linux, it's not an IDE, but it has nice syntaxhighlighting and you can configure it very well. I think it's evenpossible to get code completion to work under SCITE, but I haven't yetfigured out how. And it works in windows as well...On 3/3/06, Curt Hibbs <ml.chibbs@gmail.com> wrote:> On 3/3/06, Alexander Fleck <Fleck@schleissheimer.de> wrote:> > hi,> > I' m using FreeRIDE. My goal was to get an IDE for free that' s portable. I wanted to use it either on linux and windows. I like it, when an my environment for developing software looks and feels the same regardless on which platform. I don' t want to use millions of editors or IDEs. I thin vim is a good solution too, but I needed a few weeks to get really into it, I mean really into it.>> I use FreeRIDE also, which has the advantage of being both open source> and written in Ruby.>> If you want commercial IDE, check out ArachnoRuby and ActiveState's Komodo.>> Curt>>

Gregor Kopp

3/3/2006 2:50:00 PM

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Im Using this:
http://ruby...

Jedit with ruby plugins


Barrie Jarman schrieb:
> Im new (this week) to ruby and would like to know what IDE's people are
> using.
> Ive tried Radrails which seems very buggy and poorly designed.
>
> I use Zend Studio for my php developement and would like something similar
> with autocompletion, linking to methods in other files etc...
>
> thanks
>
>
>
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Gregor Kopp

3/3/2006 3:13:00 PM

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has autocompletition, and build in doku,
module/class/def browser and so on.
then you have several plugins for jedit which are not explicit for ruby,
but for buffertabs, project management, html validators etc.

Gregor Kopp schrieb:
> Im Using this:
> http://ruby...
>
> Jedit with ruby plugins
>
>
> Barrie Jarman schrieb:
>
>> Im new (this week) to ruby and would like to know what IDE's people
>> are using.
>> Ive tried Radrails which seems very buggy and poorly designed.
>>
>> I use Zend Studio for my php developement and would like something
>> similar with autocompletion, linking to methods in other files etc...
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>>
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Suraj Kurapati

3/4/2006 12:45:00 AM

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> Jedit with ruby plugins

Same here :-)
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Tassilo Horn

3/4/2006 1:53:00 AM

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"Barrie Jarman" <hscbaj@hotmail.com> writes:

Hi Barrie,

> Im new (this week) to ruby and would like to know what IDE's people
> are using.

Over the last time I used RadRails [1] and for normal Ruby coding I used
Kate [2].

But when I've read this thread my eyes caught the world *emacs*, so I
gave it a try (last time I used it regularly is about one and a half
year ago). I installed the ususal ruby-mode which comes with ruby and
extended it with ruby-electric.el [3]. And what should I say: it's
absolutely brilliant.

The only thing which currently doesn't work the way I like is the
inferior ruby mode. How can I get autocompletion in it?

Best regards,
Tassilo

Footnotes:
[1] www.radrails.org
[2] kate.kde.org
[3] shylock.uw.hu/Emacs/ruby-electric.el

Robert H

3/4/2006 3:03:00 AM

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I just started using jEdit + the Project Viewer plugin (and a few
more). It is great and since I am on Windows at work and OSX at
home...they are the same!

I will check out your link to rubyjedit...

Robert