Walter Harding
7/15/2010 1:47:00 AM
On Jul 14, 8:18 am, "5594 Dead, 727 since 1/20/09"
<dea...@deadduz.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:50:57 -0700, Russell Ronco wrote:
> > On Jul 13, 6:32 pm, "5584 Dead, 717 since 1/20/09" <dea...@deadduz.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:23:24 -0700, Russell Ronco wrote:
> >> > On Jul 12, 9:06 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >> >> Walter Harding <gopartyani...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >On Jul 11, 10:35 pm, "5584 Dead, 717 since 1/20/09"
> >> >> ><dea...@deadduz.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:53:24 -0700, Walter Harding wrote:
> >> >> >> >> (BTW, on the truth front, the reason we have 12 million or
> >> >> >> >> whatever number of undocumented guest workers is because they
> >> >> >> >> are TRAPPED here. Even if they COULD cross the border to
> >> >> >> >> return to their families easily, there's a war going down on
> >> >> >> >> that side!)
>
> >> >> >> > And the reason we want that war to extend into America is...?
>
> >> >> >> The vast majority of immigrants in the US want nothing at all to
> >> >> >> do with that war.
>
> >> >> >Well, by definition, they have no respect out American laws.They
> >> >> >want to take desperately needed jobs by Americans?
>
> >> >> Jobs that Americans do not want.
>
> >> > With de facto unemployment heading towards 20%? Are you nuts?
> > .
> >> I guess Faux News forgot to tell you about ranchers and farmers in
> >> Arizona who are whining because their crops are just sitting and
> >> rotting.
>
> > No, what they're actually worried about being forced to pay more than
> > minimum wage, or upgrading their equiptment.
>
> They already pay minimum wage, aside from the tiny, reckless minority
> that pay under the table.
And why, exactly, would they do that?
They're breaking the law hiring illegals, and they're lying to the
federal government. Why would they pay a penny more then they have
to?
> > I do find it interesting that you're willing to allow the government to
> > sabotage healthy companies with massive taxes and insane regulations -
> > but when it comes to illegal aliens, suddenly you become an Anarchist
> > who believes in no regulations whatsoever.
> Reduced to putting words in my mouth already? You're rapidly
> disintegrating.
Please tell me which one of your oft opined statements you currently
deny making. Are you against soaking the rich? Want to strip the EPA
of their powers? Against Cap and Trade? Decided the Stimulus Bill is
a bad idea? Please, tell me where I'm being unfair.
> >> But you raise an interesting point. Should Americans be made as
> >> frightened, hungry and desperate as the Mexicans who come up here to
> >> work?
>
> > Of course not - but that's what Obama wants. It's certainly the America
> > he's attempting to create.
>
> Bullshit.
Oh, snap. I guess you told me. That's what Obama wants. It's
certainly the America he's attempting to create.
> Try to stay with the topic and spare us the moronic Faux
> talking points.
And calling FOX News "Faux" is, in and of itself, a tired talking
point.
> >> Should Americans be coerced into working for minimum wage, no bennies,
> >> not even those mandated by law, and no benefits from the deductions on
> >> their paychecks?
>
> > Three sentences ago, you were in favor of exactly that in regards to the
> > illegals.
No comment, huh?
> >> Would that make for a better, stronger America?
>
> > This is the world you support; you won't admit it, being a lying sack of
> > shit and all, but a desperate America is the logical conclusion of
> > skyrocketing taxes, artificially inflated utilities, corrupt regulations
> > that are pass unread in the middle of the night, unelected officials
> > dictating regulations and a flood of unskilled labor.
>
> >> >> > Further overload
> >> >> >our educational system?
>
> >> >> Adults don't use the education system.
>
> >> > Their brood of anchor babies certainly do.
>
> >> Doesn't take long for the bigotry to come out with you, does it?
>
> > A bigot is someone who's winning an argument with a liberal.
>
> >> So we have these people. They do work Americans don't want to do,
>
> > That is, of course, a lie
>
> >>at
> >> wages no American would accept. And you want to thank them by fucking
> >> over their children?
>
> > No, I want them to return to Mexico and Canada.
>
> >> >> > Help collapse our medical system?
>
> >> >> How?!?
>
> >> > By making making massive demands on the system, without paying into
> >> > it.
>
> >> You mean, like insurance companies do?
>
> > No. I mean by taking endlessly, and returning nothing.