robw
11/29/2012 12:14:00 AM
On Nov 28, 7:05 pm, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:24:50 -0800 (PST), robw <noddy...@comcast.net>
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> >On Nov 26, 9:36 pm, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:59:10 -0800 (PST), robw <noddy...@comcast.net>
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> >> >On Nov 26, 5:49 pm, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:25:50 -0800 (PST), wy <w...@myself.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Nov 26, 4:41 am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:10:37 -0600, David Hartung <david@h0tm*il..com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
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> >> >> >> >On 11/25/2012 04:28 AM, Steve wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 21:59:21 -0600, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
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> >> >> >> >>> "Steve" <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >>>news:3c52b8p4ub736gtlbfctli464m3ilvfgbl@4ax.com...
> >> >> >> >>>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 11:52:27 -0600, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
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> >> >> >> >>>>> "Steve" <
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> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You do understand that many employers now track their employees
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> via
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> GPS. What is the difference here?
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> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Someone else is doing it so it must be OK?
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> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well for one, they make the tracking a condition for a "right" to
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> an
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> education.
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> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> They intend to broadcast social security numbers?
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> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> How do you feel about getting your own RFID? To prevent voter
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> fraud,
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> or child abuse, or illegal aliens, or to provide marketing info,
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> or?
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Doubtless someone will come up with some way to make it seem
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> innocuous
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> and palatable. What then?
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> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> It's called a 'cell phone' and is very easily tracked.
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> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Only to the tower you are hooked up with if one knows how to set the
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> phone.
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> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> I was directly involved in the industy standards drafting process.
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Regardless of what you've been told the devices can be tracked with
> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> considerable ease and accuracy.
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> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> <LOL> You've been watching too much TV.
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> >> >> >> >>>>>>> All modern cell phones include GPS chips and can be used for door to
> >> >> >> >>>>>>> door navigation without the need for towers.
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> >> >> >> >>>>>> Indeed, and it can be shut off, hence my reference to how to set the
> >> >> >> >>>>>> phone.
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> >> >> >> >>>>> Some (many, most?) of the current phones cannot be totally disabled with
> >> >> >> >>>>> the
> >> >> >> >>>>> on/off switch.
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> >> >> >> >>>> I wasn't even referring to the on/off switch. The GPS can be shut
> >> >> >> >>>> down by turning off the location services. With GPS off, it may use
> >> >> >> >>>> wifi of cell towers for a general location. Of course, one can shut
> >> >> >> >>>> off wifi too. I have no reason for either of those to be on.. If one
> >> >> >> >>>> imagines that they can be tracked, they can simply carry it in a photo
> >> >> >> >>>> film shield bag.
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> >> >> >> >>> "it can be shut off" if you were not referring to the on/off switch ...
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> >> >> >> >> I was referring to shutting off the location services, sometimes
> >> >> >> >> referred to as the GPS. I'll try to speak slower next time.
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> >> >> >> >>> The same can be accomplished by leaving the phone home which either case
> >> >> >> >>> defeats the purpose of having a cell phone.
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> >> >> >> >> My phone functions quite nicely with the location service and the WIFI
> >> >> >> >> shut off,
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> >> >> >> >Steve, I am not any sort of electronics engineer, but a number of years
> >> >> >> >ago I had the experience of setting up the phones for a show at the
> >> >> >> >Memphis convention center. The name of the show was the National
> >> >> >> >Technical Investigator's Show. Believe me, what I saw there tells me
> >> >> >> >that there is much that these folks can do, that we are not at all aware
> >> >> >> >of. It would not surprise me at all if there is a piece of software
> >> >> >> >capable of surreptitiously turning on your location services and of
> >> >> >> >tracking you without your knowledge.
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> >> >> >> Of course the technology is available, but if it was happening, you'd
> >> >> >> have legitimate technical people discovering it and legitimate news
> >> >> >> sources telling us about it and the cell phone manufacturer would be
> >> >> >> put out of business because nobody would buy their products... ever
> >> >> >> again. It'd be a huge risk for them to take because there are plenty
> >> >> >> of people with the tech knowledge to spot it, not to mention a whistle
> >> >> >> blower inside the company, and there are plenty of legitimate news
> >> >> >> sources eager to report something like that.
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> >> >> >So if the FBI is using your phone to track your pedophile ways without
> >> >> >you knowing about it and they snare you in a trap and haul you off to
> >> >> >prison as a result, why would "legitimate" people care about such
> >> >> >technology if it helped keep you off the street? The last people to
> >> >> >suffer would be the cell phone manufacturer, especially since they
> >> >> >have nothing to do with whatever software is injected into your phone
> >> >> >by any outside parties. That'd be like saying GM is responsible for
> >> >> >the brakes that failed on your car after someone who hates you
> >> >> >tampered with them. Boy, you're fundamentally stupid, but keep using
> >> >> >that phone of yours and act like no one's snooping, maybe with luck
> >> >> >you will end up locked up one day. That day can't come to soon.
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> >> >> It's easy to see that wy doesn't need and cannot afford a cellphone.
> >> >> The old frump has no friends or family... and probably the reason wy
> >> >> doesn't need a car is that he/she is obese and wanders about the
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> >> >your fantasy world is amazing.
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> >> <LOL> That's from Robbiegirl Westergoon who is still pretending to be
> >> married and still claiming to live in Philadelphia... when the facts
> >> show that he lives alone in an upstairs apartment in Delaware.
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> >> It's clear that his wife left him and it's likely that he doesn't have
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> >and you'e come to this........................how?
> >addresses over a decade old?
> >addresses usd as offices or studios?
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> You really need to stop the charade, Westergoon. I know your current
> address, I know her current address. They are not the same and
> neither one is in Philadelphia. You don't have an office and you
> don't have a studio. Your apartment is cheap and sort of shabby so I
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and my address would be.........................?????