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Re: What's your opinion? ArachnoRuby, Komodo, Eclipse/RDT, RadRails, etc.

Berger, Daniel

12/7/2005 9:29:00 PM

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Curt Hibbs [mailto:curt.hibbs@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:13 PM
> To: ruby-talk ML
> Subject: What's your opinion? ArachnoRuby, Komodo,
> Eclipse/RDT, RadRails, etc.


> I'm mostly interested in cross-platform IDEs that are
> available on Windows, Linux and OSX. Of the IDEs that you
> have actually used. What are your favorite features of each
> one (especially those you find essential), and what things or
> omissions do you find annoying?

Komodo Pros: Very nice UI, with intellisense, code folding, good (if
slow) debugger.
Komodo Cons: This isn't Ruby specific, but I don't like the way it does
project management, i.e. virtual files instead of actual files. I want
to add a file to the project on the fly, dammit, not create it somewhere
else and *then* import it. Also, I can't use it on Solaris.

RDT Pros: Plugin for a larger IDE framework (Eclipse) which is handy if
you're dealing with several different languages and/or frameworks (i.e.
easy to switch back and forth between different perspectives), and it
works on all platforms that support Java. Comes with all the advantages
of Eclipse, i.e. CVS integration, project management, etc. Has a nice
test runner built in as well as code folding. More features being
added. Oh, and it's free.

RDT Cons: I don't know that the debugger works on all platforms, and it
was kind of flaky the last time I tried it.

ArachnoRuby: Haven't tried it (or maybe I downloaded a beta a while ago
but I've since forgotten). Doesn't appear to work on Solaris, though.

Regards,

Dan
4 Answers

Jeff Wood

12/7/2005 9:35:00 PM

0

Big plus for Arachno... I LOVE it's multithreading debugger ... it's nice to
be able to set breakpoints and continue/step individual threads...

Haven't tried that on the other GUIs yet ( but I *do* own and have them all
installed ).

j.

On 12/7/05, Berger, Daniel <Daniel.Berger@qwest.com> wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Curt Hibbs [mailto:curt.hibbs@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:13 PM
> > To: ruby-talk ML
> > Subject: What's your opinion? ArachnoRuby, Komodo,
> > Eclipse/RDT, RadRails, etc.
>
>
> > I'm mostly interested in cross-platform IDEs that are
> > available on Windows, Linux and OSX. Of the IDEs that you
> > have actually used. What are your favorite features of each
> > one (especially those you find essential), and what things or
> > omissions do you find annoying?
>
> Komodo Pros: Very nice UI, with intellisense, code folding, good (if
> slow) debugger.
> Komodo Cons: This isn't Ruby specific, but I don't like the way it does
> project management, i.e. virtual files instead of actual files. I want
> to add a file to the project on the fly, dammit, not create it somewhere
> else and *then* import it. Also, I can't use it on Solaris.
>
> RDT Pros: Plugin for a larger IDE framework (Eclipse) which is handy if
> you're dealing with several different languages and/or frameworks (i.e.
> easy to switch back and forth between different perspectives), and it
> works on all platforms that support Java. Comes with all the advantages
> of Eclipse, i.e. CVS integration, project management, etc. Has a nice
> test runner built in as well as code folding. More features being
> added. Oh, and it's free.
>
> RDT Cons: I don't know that the debugger works on all platforms, and it
> was kind of flaky the last time I tried it.
>
> ArachnoRuby: Haven't tried it (or maybe I downloaded a beta a while ago
> but I've since forgotten). Doesn't appear to work on Solaris, though.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>


--
"Remember. Understand. Believe. Yield! -> http://ruby-lang...

Jeff Wood

Jeff Wood

12/7/2005 9:36:00 PM

0

All meaning Eclipse/RDT , KOMODO, & Arachno ... ( plus I use xemacs on linux
).

j.

On 12/7/05, Jeff Wood <jeff.darklight@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Big plus for Arachno... I LOVE it's multithreading debugger ... it's nice
> to be able to set breakpoints and continue/step individual threads...
>
> Haven't tried that on the other GUIs yet ( but I *do* own and have them
> all installed ).
>
> j.
>
> On 12/7/05, Berger, Daniel <Daniel.Berger@qwest.com> wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Curt Hibbs [mailto:curt.hibbs@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:13 PM
> > > To: ruby-talk ML
> > > Subject: What's your opinion? ArachnoRuby, Komodo,
> > > Eclipse/RDT, RadRails, etc.
> >
> >
> > > I'm mostly interested in cross-platform IDEs that are
> > > available on Windows, Linux and OSX. Of the IDEs that you
> > > have actually used. What are your favorite features of each
> > > one (especially those you find essential), and what things or
> > > omissions do you find annoying?
> >
> > Komodo Pros: Very nice UI, with intellisense, code folding, good (if
> > slow) debugger.
> > Komodo Cons: This isn't Ruby specific, but I don't like the way it does
> >
> > project management, i.e. virtual files instead of actual files. I want
> > to add a file to the project on the fly, dammit, not create it somewhere
> > else and *then* import it. Also, I can't use it on Solaris.
> >
> > RDT Pros: Plugin for a larger IDE framework (Eclipse) which is handy if
> > you're dealing with several different languages and/or frameworks (i.e.
> > easy to switch back and forth between different perspectives), and it
> > works on all platforms that support Java. Comes with all the advantages
> > of Eclipse, i.e. CVS integration, project management, etc. Has a nice
> > test runner built in as well as code folding. More features being
> > added. Oh, and it's free.
> >
> > RDT Cons: I don't know that the debugger works on all platforms, and it
> > was kind of flaky the last time I tried it.
> >
> > ArachnoRuby: Haven't tried it (or maybe I downloaded a beta a while ago
> > but I've since forgotten). Doesn't appear to work on Solaris, though.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> "Remember. Understand. Believe. Yield! -> http://ruby-lang...
>
> Jeff Wood




--
"Remember. Understand. Believe. Yield! -> http://ruby-lang...

Jeff Wood

Curt Hibbs

12/7/2005 9:41:00 PM

0

This reminds me of one more thing... Let me know what platform you are
running on. In general, I assume that most features will work the same on
all platforms. However, there may be exceptions -- the the debugger.

Since I'm a Windows user, I might need help checking out a feature or two on
the other platforms to confirm that they work as expected, so it'd be nice
to know who to ask.

Thanks,
Curt

On 12/7/05, Jeff Wood <jeff.darklight@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All meaning Eclipse/RDT , KOMODO, & Arachno ... ( plus I use xemacs on
> linux
> ).
>
> j.
>
> On 12/7/05, Jeff Wood <jeff.darklight@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Big plus for Arachno... I LOVE it's multithreading debugger ... it's
> nice
> > to be able to set breakpoints and continue/step individual threads...
> >
> > Haven't tried that on the other GUIs yet ( but I *do* own and have them
> > all installed ).
> >
> > j.
> >
> > On 12/7/05, Berger, Daniel <Daniel.Berger@qwest.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Curt Hibbs [mailto:curt.hibbs@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:13 PM
> > > > To: ruby-talk ML
> > > > Subject: What's your opinion? ArachnoRuby, Komodo,
> > > > Eclipse/RDT, RadRails, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm mostly interested in cross-platform IDEs that are
> > > > available on Windows, Linux and OSX. Of the IDEs that you
> > > > have actually used. What are your favorite features of each
> > > > one (especially those you find essential), and what things or
> > > > omissions do you find annoying?
> > >
> > > Komodo Pros: Very nice UI, with intellisense, code folding, good (if
> > > slow) debugger.
> > > Komodo Cons: This isn't Ruby specific, but I don't like the way it
> does
> > >
> > > project management, i.e. virtual files instead of actual files. I
> want
> > > to add a file to the project on the fly, dammit, not create it
> somewhere
> > > else and *then* import it. Also, I can't use it on Solaris.
> > >
> > > RDT Pros: Plugin for a larger IDE framework (Eclipse) which is handy
> if
> > > you're dealing with several different languages and/or frameworks (i.e
> .
> > > easy to switch back and forth between different perspectives), and it
> > > works on all platforms that support Java. Comes with all the
> advantages
> > > of Eclipse, i.e. CVS integration, project management, etc. Has a nice
> > > test runner built in as well as code folding. More features being
> > > added. Oh, and it's free.
> > >
> > > RDT Cons: I don't know that the debugger works on all platforms, and
> it
> > > was kind of flaky the last time I tried it.
> > >
> > > ArachnoRuby: Haven't tried it (or maybe I downloaded a beta a while
> ago
> > > but I've since forgotten). Doesn't appear to work on Solaris, though.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Remember. Understand. Believe. Yield! -> http://ruby-lang...
> >
> > Jeff Wood
>
>
>
>
> --
> "Remember. Understand. Believe. Yield! -> http://ruby-lang...
>
> Jeff Wood
>
>

Jeff Wood

12/7/2005 9:49:00 PM

0

the other platforms ... meaning ? *nix, bsd, etc ? or xp/nt/2k ( i know not
*really* platforms )....

j.

On 12/7/05, Curt Hibbs <curt.hibbs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This reminds me of one more thing... Let me know what platform you are
> running on. In general, I assume that most features will work the same on
> all platforms. However, there may be exceptions -- the the debugger.
>
> Since I'm a Windows user, I might need help checking out a feature or two
> on
> the other platforms to confirm that they work as expected, so it'd be nice
> to know who to ask.
>
> Thanks,
> Curt
>
> On 12/7/05, Jeff Wood <jeff.darklight@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > All meaning Eclipse/RDT , KOMODO, & Arachno ... ( plus I use xemacs on
> > linux
> > ).
> >
> > j.
> >
> > On 12/7/05, Jeff Wood <jeff.darklight@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Big plus for Arachno... I LOVE it's multithreading debugger ... it's
> > nice
> > > to be able to set breakpoints and continue/step individual threads...
> > >
> > > Haven't tried that on the other GUIs yet ( but I *do* own and have
> them
> > > all installed ).
> > >
> > > j.
> > >
> > > On 12/7/05, Berger, Daniel <Daniel.Berger@qwest.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Curt Hibbs [mailto:curt.hibbs@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:13 PM
> > > > > To: ruby-talk ML
> > > > > Subject: What's your opinion? ArachnoRuby, Komodo,
> > > > > Eclipse/RDT, RadRails, etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I'm mostly interested in cross-platform IDEs that are
> > > > > available on Windows, Linux and OSX. Of the IDEs that you
> > > > > have actually used. What are your favorite features of each
> > > > > one (especially those you find essential), and what things or
> > > > > omissions do you find annoying?
> > > >
> > > > Komodo Pros: Very nice UI, with intellisense, code folding, good
> (if
> > > > slow) debugger.
> > > > Komodo Cons: This isn't Ruby specific, but I don't like the way it
> > does
> > > >
> > > > project management, i.e. virtual files instead of actual files. I
> > want
> > > > to add a file to the project on the fly, dammit, not create it
> > somewhere
> > > > else and *then* import it. Also, I can't use it on Solaris.
> > > >
> > > > RDT Pros: Plugin for a larger IDE framework (Eclipse) which is handy
> > if
> > > > you're dealing with several different languages and/or frameworks (
> i.e
> > .
> > > > easy to switch back and forth between different perspectives), and
> it
> > > > works on all platforms that support Java. Comes with all the
> > advantages
> > > > of Eclipse, i.e. CVS integration, project management, etc. Has a
> nice
> > > > test runner built in as well as code folding. More features being
> > > > added. Oh, and it's free.
> > > >
> > > > RDT Cons: I don't know that the debugger works on all platforms, and
> > it
> > > > was kind of flaky the last time I tried it.
> > > >
> > > > ArachnoRuby: Haven't tried it (or maybe I downloaded a beta a while
> > ago
> > > > but I've since forgotten). Doesn't appear to work on Solaris,
> though.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "Remember. Understand. Believe. Yield! -> http://ruby-lang...
> > >
> > > Jeff Wood
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Remember. Understand. Believe. Yield! -> http://ruby-lang...
> >
> > Jeff Wood
> >
> >
>
>


--
"Remember. Understand. Believe. Yield! -> http://ruby-lang...

Jeff Wood