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<3c596c02-d922-4cd2-b683-8c2f11d4c5dc@w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, M
forever <ms1000@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 30, 10:16?pm, O <ow...@denofinequityx.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <6fa38694-18f7-45b9-b81c-59fca4c20...@i28g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > mark <markstenr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 29, 6:42?pm, O <ow...@denofinequityx.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Religions don't pretend to supply all the answers. ?Even science
> > > > > doesn't promise that.
> >
> > > The problem is that religions look askance at anybody and anything who/
> > > that supplies answers that conflict with their dogmas.
> >
> > Yes. ?But that's why they're religions. ?There probably are some
> > religions which are so open ended that they accept any and all beliefs,
> > but most have a written agenda that they preach. ?But nobody makes you
> > sign up, at least not in this country.
>
> Nonsense. The social pressure to "sign up", in some parts of this
> country, is overwhelming. As is the need for public figures to protest
> their religiousness in order to prove how "good" and "moral" they are.
I repeat. Nobody makes you sign up. If you make your life decisions
on "social pressure," then you're not very sincere about it anyway.
>
> > > Science doesn't promise to have all the answers, but science does
> > > promise to conduct an open and objective search for the answers, and
> > > lets the chips fall where they may in the process.
> >
> > > Religions can't afford to do that, for therein lie the seeds of their
> > > destruction.
> >
> > You wouldn't want a religion to do science anyway. ?The way I look at
> > it, religions are what they are. ? If you agree, sign up. ?If you
> > don't, start you own or go someplace else.
>
> Fortunately, we are getting close to a situation where you can
> actually do that. Not too long ago, no matter where you lived,
> religion meddled into the worldy affairs of everyone all the time.
> They still do in this country to a much higher degree than in Western
> Europe, if less than in many other parts of the world where you still
> don't have freedom *from* religion.
Try publishing some Muslim related cartoons in Denmark, or any other
Western Europe country.
-Owen