Asp Forum - freenode call for coders

Martin DeMello

5/17/2005 4:20:00 AM

Just passing this along

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http://dunnage.blogspot.com/2005/04/seeking-volunteer-coding...

WANTED: Small not-for-profit entity seeks volunteer help in the form of
obsessive coders (C, Ruby, Python) willing to devote long hours to a
community project. Candidates must be accustomed to writing clear,
straightforward code and must be amenable to license assignment a la
FSF.

The project requires coders who are willing to write informal
requirements documents based on user input and specification, as well as
being extremely willing to "scratch someone else's itch." The project
includes a web-based utility environment and a non-web-based interactive
chat environment.

The web component will be modular and will provide user authentication,
incident reporting and volunteer time scheduling, as well as allow
configuration of external services. PostgreSQL and MySQL experience
needed. LDAP, XML-RPC and SOAP expertise highly desirable. Code reuse is
encouraged where it does not interfere with ease of use and design
goals. Professional-quality artwork and layout needed; site must be web
standards compliant.

The non-web component consists of a modular interactive chat framework
designed to replace a conventional IRC daemon, with abstracted session
management and modules to implement IRC, jabber and other eventually
other client protocols. User and discussion group configuration
primarily via web component. Performance is extremely important.

If you're interested in helping out, please email me at levin at
freenode dot net or stop by irc.freenode.net and message lilo. Thanks.

4 Answers

Lothar Scholz

5/17/2005 6:09:00 AM

Hello Martin,

MD> Just passing this along

Is it just me who find that this "volunteer"'s thing is going way to
far. I mean this is a clear job offer and freenode does not seem to be
so small that they can't afford at least a few bucks to get this thing
done (and i don't want to discuss here why every dollar for tsunami
victims paid to UNICEF is making the situation in south-east-asia more
worth).

I can only hope that everybody who is considering supporting for this
stops for a moment and think if he/she really wants to participates into
the continuesly reduction of programmers wage and more important:
"value".

I worked a long time myself for a very small not-for-profit
organization but even they would not come up with such an offer for
free.

MD> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

MD> http://dunnage.blogspot.com/2005/04/seeking-volunteer-coding...

MD> WANTED: Small not-for-profit entity seeks volunteer help in the form of
MD> obsessive coders (C, Ruby, Python) willing to devote long hours to a
MD> community project. Candidates must be accustomed to writing clear,
MD> straightforward code and must be amenable to license assignment a la
MD> FSF.

MD> The project requires coders who are willing to write informal
MD> requirements documents based on user input and specification, as well as
MD> being extremely willing to "scratch someone else's itch." The project
MD> includes a web-based utility environment and a non-web-based interactive
MD> chat environment.

MD> The web component will be modular and will provide user authentication,
MD> incident reporting and volunteer time scheduling, as well as allow
MD> configuration of external services. PostgreSQL and MySQL experience
MD> needed. LDAP, XML-RPC and SOAP expertise highly desirable. Code reuse is
MD> encouraged where it does not interfere with ease of use and design
MD> goals. Professional-quality artwork and layout needed; site must be web
MD> standards compliant.

MD> The non-web component consists of a modular interactive chat framework
MD> designed to replace a conventional IRC daemon, with abstracted session
MD> management and modules to implement IRC, jabber and other eventually
MD> other client protocols. User and discussion group configuration
MD> primarily via web component. Performance is extremely important.

MD> If you're interested in helping out, please email me at levin at
MD> freenode dot net or stop by irc.freenode.net and message lilo. Thanks.

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Best regards, emailto: scholz at scriptolutions dot com
Lothar Scholz http://www.ru...
CTO Scriptolutions Ruby, PHP, Python IDE 's

Martin DeMello

5/17/2005 6:46:00 AM

Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@scriptolutions.com> wrote:
> Hello Martin,
>
> MD> Just passing this along
>
> Is it just me who find that this "volunteer"'s thing is going way to
> far. I mean this is a clear job offer and freenode does not seem to be
> so small that they can't afford at least a few bucks to get this thing
> done (and i don't want to discuss here why every dollar for tsunami
> victims paid to UNICEF is making the situation in south-east-asia more
> worth).

IMHO freenode has provided considerable value, for free, to the open
source community, and time spent improving it will only benefit its
users. Who are pretty much the people they're asking for help. I don't
see the problem here.

martin

Eric Hodel

5/17/2005 6:29:00 PM

On 16 May 2005, at 23:08, Lothar Scholz wrote:

> Hello Martin,
>
> MD> Just passing this along
>
> Is it just me who find that this "volunteer"'s thing is going way to
> far. I mean this is a clear job offer and freenode does not seem to be
> so small that they can't afford at least a few bucks to get this thing
> done.

I believe this goes hand-in-hand with Freenode's support of open-
source development and being a non-profit organization. Freenode is
just about an all-volunteer organization, so paying somebody to write
software would be pretty rude considering all the day-to-day Freenode
staffers who don't get paid a dime.

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Francis Hwang

5/18/2005 6:58:00 PM

Well, whatever the market will bear, you know? Sometimes people find it
gratifying to write code for free, and open source looks a lot like
volunteer work from a distance.

The free software economy is pretty solid proof that under the right
circumstances, skilled programmers will give away code for free.
Freenode is looking to take advantage of that fact, and if that works
for them I see no reason why it's anybody else's problem.

On May 17, 2005, at 2:08 AM, Lothar Scholz wrote:

> Hello Martin,
>
> MD> Just passing this along
>
> Is it just me who find that this "volunteer"'s thing is going way to
> far. I mean this is a clear job offer and freenode does not seem to be
> so small that they can't afford at least a few bucks to get this thing
> done (and i don't want to discuss here why every dollar for tsunami
> victims paid to UNICEF is making the situation in south-east-asia more
> worth).
>
> I can only hope that everybody who is considering supporting for this
> stops for a moment and think if he/she really wants to participates
> into
> the continuesly reduction of programmers wage and more important:
> "value".
>
> I worked a long time myself for a very small not-for-profit
> organization but even they would not come up with such an offer for
> free.
>
>
> MD>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> MD>
> http://dunnage.blogspot.com/2005/04/seeking-volunteer-coding...
>
> MD> WANTED: Small not-for-profit entity seeks volunteer help in the
> form of
> MD> obsessive coders (C, Ruby, Python) willing to devote long hours to
> a
> MD> community project. Candidates must be accustomed to writing clear,
> MD> straightforward code and must be amenable to license assignment a
> la
> MD> FSF.
>
> MD> The project requires coders who are willing to write informal
> MD> requirements documents based on user input and specification, as
> well as
> MD> being extremely willing to "scratch someone else's itch." The
> project
> MD> includes a web-based utility environment and a non-web-based
> interactive
> MD> chat environment.
>
> MD> The web component will be modular and will provide user
> authentication,
> MD> incident reporting and volunteer time scheduling, as well as allow
> MD> configuration of external services. PostgreSQL and MySQL experience
> MD> needed. LDAP, XML-RPC and SOAP expertise highly desirable. Code
> reuse is
> MD> encouraged where it does not interfere with ease of use and design
> MD> goals. Professional-quality artwork and layout needed; site must
> be web
> MD> standards compliant.
>
> MD> The non-web component consists of a modular interactive chat
> framework
> MD> designed to replace a conventional IRC daemon, with abstracted
> session
> MD> management and modules to implement IRC, jabber and other
> eventually
> MD> other client protocols. User and discussion group configuration
> MD> primarily via web component. Performance is extremely important.
>
> MD> If you're interested in helping out, please email me at levin at
> MD> freenode dot net or stop by irc.freenode.net and message lilo.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards, emailto: scholz at
> scriptolutions dot com
> Lothar Scholz http://www.ru...
> CTO Scriptolutions Ruby, PHP, Python IDE 's
>
>
>
>

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