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Re: Thesaurus library?

Berger, Daniel

5/5/2005 6:17:00 PM

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Schröder [mailto:ruby.brian@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 12:14 PM
> To: ruby-talk ML
> Subject: Re: Thesaurus library?
>
>
> On 05/05/05, Richard Livsey <richard@livsey.org> wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a library/package which will enable finding of
> > synonyms and antonyms for words?
> >
> > I've googled, and looked at rubyforge and sourceforge but haven't
> > turned up anything.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
>
> Not really an answer, but If you train an LSA algorithm as it
> was recently mentioned here on a really big textlist, you can
> extract synonyms quite easily. The only problem is that
> antonyms have nearly the same meaning as synonyms (Only one
> dimension is different) so they won't be far away. I'd really
> like to have some time to play with this LSA implementation....
>
> Sorry for the noise,
>
> Brian

While an interesting approach, it's probably easier to find a web service that does this and write a wrapper for it. :)

Regards,

Dan
44 Answers

Brian Schröder

5/5/2005 6:22:00 PM

0

On 05/05/05, Berger, Daniel <Daniel.Berger@qwest.com> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Schröder [mailto:ruby.brian@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 12:14 PM
> > To: ruby-talk ML
> > Subject: Re: Thesaurus library?
> >
> >
> > On 05/05/05, Richard Livsey <richard@livsey.org> wrote:
> > > Does anyone know of a library/package which will enable finding of
> > > synonyms and antonyms for words?
> > >
> > > I've googled, and looked at rubyforge and sourceforge but haven't
> > > turned up anything.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> >
> > Not really an answer, but If you train an LSA algorithm as it
> > was recently mentioned here on a really big textlist, you can
> > extract synonyms quite easily. The only problem is that
> > antonyms have nearly the same meaning as synonyms (Only one
> > dimension is different) so they won't be far away. I'd really
> > like to have some time to play with this LSA implementation....
> >
> > Sorry for the noise,
> >
> > Brian
>
> While an interesting approach, it's probably easier to find a web service that does this and write a wrapper for it. :)

That surely is simpler, but also a lot less interesting and time consuming... ;)

best regards,

Brian

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Ramon F Herrera

6/12/2012 3:03:00 PM

0

On Jun 12, 9:27 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >The borders are as secure as they have ever been.
>
> That's not saying much, is it?

Let me put it this way: The borders are as closed as to the best of
our abilities and given scarce resources.

The current net flow is NEGATIVE (ie. Mexicans are returning home).

A large percentage of undocumented (some say half) folks enter
legally, via airplane or ships, their backs are dry as their martinis.
They are visa overstayers. We have "interior enforcement" for those.
The Obama Administration has broken all records on that respect,
kicking the asses of foreign criminals and of Republicans with the
same foot.

Border construction has ceased, since it had arrived to the point of
diminishing returns.

-Ramon

plainolamerican

6/12/2012 3:06:00 PM

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On Jun 12, 9:15 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> On Jun 12, 8:15 am, TaxPayer <bettymar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > Please people! It's time to secure our borders!
>  >http://www.examiner.com/article/the-children-of-illegal-ali.......
>
> The borders are as secure as they have ever been.
>
> You don't have ANY evidence of your facile (some would say racist, not
> to mention ridiculous) accusation.
>
> By far the Hispanic demographic growth is due to US CITIZENS having
> children:
>
> http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Having-...
>
> How do we know that?
>
> Easy! There are about 45 million LEGAL Hispanics in the US vs. some
> 6-7 million undocumented ones.
>
> Pray tell: Who has more children?
>
> So, in light of this information (not sure whether your ignorance was
> genuine or pretend), what do you folks propose???
>
>  - Massive Castrations?
>
>  - Forced Sterilizations (*)
>
>  - Giving away free TVs via Univision and Telemundo?
>
>  - Adding an anti-Viagra substance to the barrios' water supply?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> -Ramon
>
> ps: California has been the land of those kids' ancestors for 50,000
> years.

There are about 45 million LEGAL Hispanics in the US vs. some
6-7 million undocumented ones.
---
more like 12 million illegal ones

So, in light of this information (not sure whether your ignorance was
genuine or pretend), what do you folks propose???
- Massive Castrations?
- Forced Sterilizations (*)
- Giving away free TVs via Univision and Telemundo?
- Adding an anti-Viagra substance to the barrios' water supply?
---
all good ideas
deport them along with their parents back to where they belong

ps: California has been the land of those kids' ancestors for 50,000
years.
---
yet Mexico ceded California to the United States and their ancestry
became insignificant

Gunner Asch

6/12/2012 5:04:00 PM

0

On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:06:01 -0700 (PDT), plainolamerican
<plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> ps: California has been the land of those kids' ancestors for 50,000
>> years.
>
>There are about 45 million LEGAL Hispanics in the US vs. some
>6-7 million undocumented ones.
>---
>more like 12 million illegal ones

More like 20 million illegal ones


--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".

Klaus Schadenfreude

6/12/2012 6:56:00 PM

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>"Ramon F. Herrera" <ramon@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>On Jun 12, 9:27??am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>> >The borders are as secure as they have ever been.
>>
>> That's not saying much, is it?
>
>Let me put it this way: The borders are as closed as to the best of
>our abilities and given scarce resources.

Bullshit.

We have plenty of resources and abilities. What we lack is political
will.

>The current net flow is NEGATIVE (ie. Mexicans are returning home).

BUllshit. It's not just illegals crossing the border.

Ramon F Herrera

6/12/2012 7:58:00 PM

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On Jun 12, 1:56 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >On Jun 12, 9:27 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >> >The borders are as secure as they have ever been.
>
> >> That's not saying much, is it?
>
> >Let me put it this way: The borders are as closed as to the best of
> >our abilities and given scarce resources.
>

> Bullshit.
>
> We have plenty of resources and abilities.
> What we lack is political will.

I though all of you baggers were against big government?? So, which
one is it? All of a sudden you are for a government of gargantuan
proportions PLUS attacking Free Enterprise in order to make sure that
your neighbors and co-workers have a skin hue that falls within
acceptable range.

What you propose is war against P-E-O-P-L-E: It will never happen.

"To deport them would require not just police measures we would never
tolerate"

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/george-will-deporting-all-illegal-immigrants-is-never-going-...
http://tinyurl.c...

-Ramon

Ramon F Herrera

6/12/2012 8:04:00 PM

0

On Jun 12, 1:56 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >On Jun 12, 9:27 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >> >The borders are as secure as they have ever been.
>
> >> That's not saying much, is it?
>
> >Let me put it this way: The borders are as closed as to the best of
> >our abilities and given scarce resources.
>
> Bullshit.
>

> We have plenty of resources and abilities.
> What we lack is political will.

Tell that to the baggers for whom you voted. They are the ones holding
the purse strings.

-Ramon

--------------------------

"Feds Estimate Deportation Costs $12,500 Per Person
By Staff, Associated Press
January 27, 2011

"Washington (AP) - A high-level immigration official says it costs
$12,500 to arrest, detain and deport each person removed from the U.S.

"Immigration and Customs Enforcement deputy director Kumar Kibble has
announced that cost at a House subcommittee hearing. Wednesday's
hearing focused on whether the Obama administration is doing enough to
round up people working illegally in the U.S. ICE deported almost
393,000 people from the U.S. in 2010. At $12,500 per person the cost
to remove them was almost $5 billion."

[...]

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/feds-estimate-deportation-costs-12...

Ramon F Herrera

6/12/2012 8:14:00 PM

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On Jun 12, 1:56 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Bullshit.
>
> We have plenty of resources and abilities.

Watch "World War II in Color". I was shocked when I learned the
incredible amount of (EXTREMELY scarce) resources dedicated by the
Nazis in their final days, when they knew it was just a matter of
months for the grand finale: They mobilized soldiers to the
concentration camps in order to kill as many Juden as possible before
saying adieu.

I guess it's true what they say: "Hatred is the strongest
motivator" (some would argue that it is the only one).

The analogy is inescapable.

-Ramon

=====================================================

"Money is no object!!"
-Signed: Herr Schadenfreude

"States that Passed Arizona-style Immigration Laws Now Face Costly,
Uphill Legal Battles

"Despite repeated warnings from business groups, tourism and industry
boards and advocates about the hefty price tag attached to Arizona-
style legislation, state lawmakers continued to push “get tough”
copycat proposals. Many ultimately rejected SB1070-style legislation
(26, to date) due to high costs and political backlash, while others
severely watered down, altered or put on hold legislation targeting
undocumented immigrants. But states that did pass anti-immigrant
legislation, like Georgia and Indiana, now face costly, uphill legal
battles.

"Yesterday, the ACLU, National Immigration Law Center (NILC) and
several civil rights groups filed a class action lawsuit against
Georgia"

[...]

http://tinyurl.c...

skm1942

6/12/2012 8:19:00 PM

0

On Jun 12, 11:56 am, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >On Jun 12, 9:27 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> >> >The borders are as secure as they have ever been.
>
> >> That's not saying much, is it?
>
> >Let me put it this way: The borders are as closed as to the best of
> >our abilities and given scarce resources.
>
> Bullshit.
>
> We have plenty of resources and abilities. What we lack is political
> will.
>
> >The current net flow is NEGATIVE (ie. Mexicans are returning home).
>
> BUllshit. It's not just illegals crossing the border.

Exactly! Even the FBI Director has said that thousand of OTM's have
crossed our southern border from known terrorist countries and
disappeared into our country. Hardened criminals are getting through
also. We need to pull out all the stops to secure our borders. I
am for smaller government but when it comes to the safety and security
of our country no expense should be spared in that area.

I don't know what a bagger is. I do know however what a teaparty
member is. I am not one but I do believe in fiscal responsibility as
do they. Free enterprise doesn't mean it's ok to operate a business
outside of our laws. We are also a nation of laws and immigration
laws are in place for very good reasons. I couldn't care less what
someone's skin color is. Just that they come here legally and
assimilate to our culture and language. Otherwise, why come here?
Are we just a cash cow for some?

skm1942

6/12/2012 8:21:00 PM

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On Jun 12, 1:18 pm, chicagonut <skm1...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Jun 12, 11:56 am, Klaus Schadenfreude
>
>
>
>
>
> <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> > >On Jun 12, 9:27 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
> > >wrote:
> > >> >"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
> > >> >The borders are as secure as they have ever been.
>
> > >> That's not saying much, is it?
>
> > >Let me put it this way: The borders are as closed as to the best of
> > >our abilities and given scarce resources.
>
> > Bullshit.
>
> > We have plenty of resources and abilities. What we lack is political
> > will.
>
> > >The current net flow is NEGATIVE (ie. Mexicans are returning home).
>
> > BUllshit. It's not just illegals crossing the border.
>
> Exactly!   Even the FBI Director has said that thousand of OTM's have
> crossed our southern border from known terrorist countries and
> disappeared into our country.   Hardened criminals are getting through
> also.    We need to pull out all the stops to secure our borders.   I
> am for smaller government but when it comes to the safety and security
> of our country no expense should be spared in that area.
>
> I don't know what a bagger is.   I do know however what a teaparty
> member is.   I am not one but I do believe in fiscal responsibility as
> do they.    Free enterprise doesn't mean it's ok to operate a business
> outside of our laws.   We are also a nation of laws and immigration
> laws are in place for very good reasons.    I couldn't care less what
> someone's skin color is.  Just that they come here legally and
> assimilate to our culture and language.   Otherwise, why come here?
> Are we just a cash cow for some?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

And by the way, we have every right to enforce our immigration laws
and deport those here illegally. A cheaper way of doing that would
be to remove all the magnets that bring them here and keep them here
such as jobs, resources, benefits and birthright citizenship.