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Re: [Rails] NYC Meetup?

pat eyler

4/12/2005 9:49:00 PM

On Apr 12, 2005 3:40 PM, Matt Pelletier <pelletierm@eastmedia.net> wrote:
> Hi Pat (and Paul, from earlier reply),
>
> Actually I did go to last month's Ruby Group (If you guys are watching I
> was the newbie). It was quite helpful, and I even came out with a free
> 'Learn Ruby in 21 days' (thanks Francis), but my impression was that it
> was more oriented toward the language itself than to Rails, esp. as it's
> been around longer than Rails has existed. We talked about Rails a bit,
> but I don't want to inadvertantly steer those meetings into discussions
> just about Rails. So I will continue to attend them, but if there is
> enough interest in NYC I'd like to start one that focuses on Rails
> itself. There are plenty of developers here and I'd wager the interest
> is only going to grow.


Actually I'm no where near NYC, so I didn't see you at the last meeting. ;^)

I am concerned though that by starting Rails specific groups, we fragment a
community that is still fairly young. I think having a RoR group is a great
idea, but I'd rather see it run in cooperation with an NYC.rb (or whatever). I
think the new Rails folks can learn a lot from experienced Rubyists, and the
'old timers' can certainly get a boost from the new folks that RoR will bring
in.

just my $0.02


>
> Matt
>

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3 Answers

Lloyd Zusman

4/12/2005 11:24:00 PM

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Matt Pelletier <pelletierm@eastmedia.net> writes:

> Pat,
>
> I fully agree about learning from the 'elders', and that cooperation and
> cross-talk should be encouraged from the start. I don't think
> fragmenting interests is too much of a concern at this point, though, as
> anyone coding for RoR is likely to be pretty interested in Ruby as a
> language anyway. I certainly am. In fact I plan to encourage anyone
> coming to the RoR to go to the NYC.rb as well. Depending on the size of
> the interest (I have 4 ppl so far), maybe we'll ask the NYC.rb leader
> (Francis I know you're on ruby-talk) to set aside some time for each
> meeting just to focus on RoR.
>
> My rationale for wanting to start a Rails-specific group is that the
> ruby-nyc group is for the language, and those members have interests
> that don't necessarily deal directly with the web. While they would
> probably be interested to hear new members talk about Rails (and they
> were when I did so), I wouldn't want to alienate them by hogging the
> discussion about the Web.
>
> Since this is going to the Ruby-talk list... any Ruby folks there
> interested in a NYC meetup?
>
> Matt

I live in NYC and I'd love to attend Ruby meetups here when I can.

I also prefer not to fragment the group.


--
Lloyd Zusman
ljz@asfast.com
God bless you.

Matt Pelletier

4/12/2005 11:36:00 PM

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I've created a new Yahoo Group for RoR in NYC called rubyonrails-nyc

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rubyon...

I encourage anyone with an interest in Ruby AND/OR RoR to join. I'll
work out the details of setting up a meetup soon.

Thanks,
Matt

Matt Pelletier wrote:
> Pat,
>
> I fully agree about learning from the 'elders', and that cooperation and
> cross-talk should be encouraged from the start. I don't think
> fragmenting interests is too much of a concern at this point, though, as
> anyone coding for RoR is likely to be pretty interested in Ruby as a
> language anyway. I certainly am. In fact I plan to encourage anyone
> coming to the RoR to go to the NYC.rb as well. Depending on the size of
> the interest (I have 4 ppl so far), maybe we'll ask the NYC.rb leader
> (Francis I know you're on ruby-talk) to set aside some time for each
> meeting just to focus on RoR.
>
> My rationale for wanting to start a Rails-specific group is that the
> ruby-nyc group is for the language, and those members have interests
> that don't necessarily deal directly with the web. While they would
> probably be interested to hear new members talk about Rails (and they
> were when I did so), I wouldn't want to alienate them by hogging the
> discussion about the Web.
>
> Since this is going to the Ruby-talk list... any Ruby folks there
> interested in a NYC meetup?
>
> Matt
>
> pat eyler wrote:
>
>> On Apr 12, 2005 3:40 PM, Matt Pelletier <pelletierm@eastmedia.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pat (and Paul, from earlier reply),
>>>
>>> Actually I did go to last month's Ruby Group (If you guys are watching I
>>> was the newbie). It was quite helpful, and I even came out with a free
>>> 'Learn Ruby in 21 days' (thanks Francis), but my impression was that it
>>> was more oriented toward the language itself than to Rails, esp. as it's
>>> been around longer than Rails has existed. We talked about Rails a bit,
>>> but I don't want to inadvertantly steer those meetings into discussions
>>> just about Rails. So I will continue to attend them, but if there is
>>> enough interest in NYC I'd like to start one that focuses on Rails
>>> itself. There are plenty of developers here and I'd wager the interest
>>> is only going to grow.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually I'm no where near NYC, so I didn't see you at the last
>> meeting. ;^)
>>
>> I am concerned though that by starting Rails specific groups, we
>> fragment a community that is still fairly young. I think having a RoR
>> group is a great idea, but I'd rather see it run in cooperation with
>> an NYC.rb (or whatever). I
>> think the new Rails folks can learn a lot from experienced Rubyists,
>> and the
>> 'old timers' can certainly get a boost from the new folks that RoR
>> will bring
>> in.
>>
>> just my $0.02
>>
>>
>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Rails mailing list
> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org
> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/list...
>
>


Francis Hwang

4/12/2005 11:43:00 PM

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Looks like our emails crossed one another out in the internets. Ah,
well. Best of luck with this group, Matt.

On Apr 12, 2005, at 7:36 PM, Matt Pelletier wrote:

> I've created a new Yahoo Group for RoR in NYC called rubyonrails-nyc
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rubyon...
>
> I encourage anyone with an interest in Ruby AND/OR RoR to join. I'll
> work out the details of setting up a meetup soon.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
> Matt Pelletier wrote:
>> Pat,
>> I fully agree about learning from the 'elders', and that cooperation
>> and cross-talk should be encouraged from the start. I don't think
>> fragmenting interests is too much of a concern at this point, though,
>> as anyone coding for RoR is likely to be pretty interested in Ruby as
>> a language anyway. I certainly am. In fact I plan to encourage anyone
>> coming to the RoR to go to the NYC.rb as well. Depending on the size
>> of the interest (I have 4 ppl so far), maybe we'll ask the NYC.rb
>> leader (Francis I know you're on ruby-talk) to set aside some time
>> for each meeting just to focus on RoR.
>> My rationale for wanting to start a Rails-specific group is that the
>> ruby-nyc group is for the language, and those members have interests
>> that don't necessarily deal directly with the web. While they would
>> probably be interested to hear new members talk about Rails (and they
>> were when I did so), I wouldn't want to alienate them by hogging the
>> discussion about the Web.
>> Since this is going to the Ruby-talk list... any Ruby folks there
>> interested in a NYC meetup?
>> Matt
>> pat eyler wrote:
>>> On Apr 12, 2005 3:40 PM, Matt Pelletier <pelletierm@eastmedia.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Pat (and Paul, from earlier reply),
>>>>
>>>> Actually I did go to last month's Ruby Group (If you guys are
>>>> watching I
>>>> was the newbie). It was quite helpful, and I even came out with a
>>>> free
>>>> 'Learn Ruby in 21 days' (thanks Francis), but my impression was
>>>> that it
>>>> was more oriented toward the language itself than to Rails, esp. as
>>>> it's
>>>> been around longer than Rails has existed. We talked about Rails a
>>>> bit,
>>>> but I don't want to inadvertantly steer those meetings into
>>>> discussions
>>>> just about Rails. So I will continue to attend them, but if there is
>>>> enough interest in NYC I'd like to start one that focuses on Rails
>>>> itself. There are plenty of developers here and I'd wager the
>>>> interest
>>>> is only going to grow.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually I'm no where near NYC, so I didn't see you at the last
>>> meeting. ;^)
>>>
>>> I am concerned though that by starting Rails specific groups, we
>>> fragment a community that is still fairly young. I think having a
>>> RoR group is a great idea, but I'd rather see it run in cooperation
>>> with an NYC.rb (or whatever). I
>>> think the new Rails folks can learn a lot from experienced Rubyists,
>>> and the
>>> 'old timers' can certainly get a boost from the new folks that RoR
>>> will bring
>>> in.
>>>
>>> just my $0.02
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Rails mailing list
>> Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org
>> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/list...
>
>

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