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PLEASE HELP!!: Need to install .NET runtime/SDK/SharpDevelop (Vb.net, C#) ON WINDOWS ME

holy_chapin

12/11/2002 1:00:00 AM

Hi-
I plan to download the FRAMEWORK for .NET for WINDOWS ME, (the basic
runtime,
not the SDK). I also am downloading the SharpDevelop IDE/compiler. I'd
like to configure it to work with WINDOWS ME.

Also, what about the SDK? I know it doesn't run on ME (the full SDK,
131 mb I think). Am I just missing a lot of docs, can I run anything
in the SDK at all, how can I run them also without installing, is
there anything that I can get from the SDK basically. I know there are
some command line compilers but if I don't have the SDK that means
SharpDevelop won't work at all right and I'll never be able to code or
run a VB.NET application, right? Please help!

I know I can develop applications in SharpDevelop with their form
editor or their code editor but do they provide the compiler? What do
I need to run the applications I create? the platform or the SDK? Is
there a way to get the C# /VB compiler from the RUNTIME or do I need
to have to have the SDK, is there any online docs if I can't have the
SDK, and if I can't really "install" the SDK is there a way to get
some of the command line compilers and things in the SDK needed to
develop applications?

PLEASE HELP, I know it is a lot of questions, but I would appreciate
it so much.

~J
10 Answers

holy_chapin

12/11/2002 2:34:00 AM

0

Hi-
I plan to download the FRAMEWORK for .NET for WINDOWS ME, (the basic
runtime, not the SDK). I also am downloading the SharpDevelop
IDE/compiler. I'd like to configure it to work with WINDOWS ME.

Also, what about the SDK? I know it doesn't run on ME (the full SDK,
131 mb I think). Am I just missing a lot of docs, can I run anything
in the SDK at all, how can I run them also without installing, is
there anything that I can get from the SDK basically. I know there are
some command line compilers but if I don't have the SDK that means
SharpDevelop won't work at all right and I'll never be able to code or
run a VB.NET application, right? Please help!

I know I can develop applications in SharpDevelop with their form
editor or their code editor but do they provide the compiler? What do
I need to run the applications I create? the platform or the SDK? Is
there a way to get the C# /VB compiler from the RUNTIME or do I need
to have to have the SDK, is there any online docs if I can't have the
SDK, and if I can't really "install" the SDK is there a way to get
some of the command line compilers and things in the SDK needed to
develop applications?

PLEASE HELP, I know it is a lot of questions, but I would appreciate
it so much.

~J

NETMaster

12/11/2002 2:48:00 AM

0

Please don't repeat to cross-post that wide.

Note, Windows 98/ME are no longer developer platforms,
so the full [130MB] .NET SDK in NOT supported on this OS.
=> Update to Windows XP.

But the 21MB runtime contains the command line C#/VB compilers.

For SharpDevelop, ask the owner:
http://www.icsharpcode.net/Open...


--
Thomas Scheidegger - MVP .NET - 'NETMaster'
http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_d... - http://dnetm...

holy_chapin

12/11/2002 3:27:00 AM

0

I wish I could and I even have a XP Upgrade Disc but unfortunately I
don't have enough RAM /memory or something. It requires 256 min or
something and I don't have that on my emachine etower 667 ix

And I have no clue onhow to install more memory and get the minimum
256 needed

On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 02:48:31 +0100, "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]
NETMaster" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote:

>Please don't repeat to cross-post that wide.
>
>Note, Windows 98/ME are no longer developer platforms,
>so the full [130MB] .NET SDK in NOT supported on this OS.
> => Update to Windows XP.
>
>But the 21MB runtime contains the command line C#/VB compilers.
>
>For SharpDevelop, ask the owner:
> http://www.icsharpcode.net/Open...

holy_chapin

12/11/2002 3:29:00 AM

0

Don't know which newsgroup you're from, but thanks.

Like I said I don't have XP, I have the XP upgrade, but I don't have
enough memory/RAM or whatever.

And I have no clue on how to install more memory ...

Trust me I've wanted to install Maya and other things on the computer
but I have an etower 67 ix (Emachine) and I just have no clue on how
to add more memory (evne 266 I think is not decent enough, XP is still
sluggish then).

On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 02:48:31 +0100, "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]
NETMaster" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote:

>
>But the 21MB runtime contains the command line C#/VB compilers.

Willem Kokke

12/11/2002 3:38:00 AM

0

no offence, but this is about the .NET framework, not about the merits of
your computer or how to install more memory..

the SDK is not supported on win98, and i'm sure there are sharpdevelop
forums somewhere where you can ask wheter you can get a satisfying user
experience ;-)

the next time you post, first look for the most on topic newsgroup, and only
post there please, Thanks

Willem



"holy_chapin" <holy_NOSPAM_chapin@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:am8dvu858adp249cfs278c4to6q4joft2m@4ax.com...
> Don't know which newsgroup you're from, but thanks.
>
> Like I said I don't have XP, I have the XP upgrade, but I don't have
> enough memory/RAM or whatever.
>
> And I have no clue on how to install more memory ...
>
> Trust me I've wanted to install Maya and other things on the computer
> but I have an etower 67 ix (Emachine) and I just have no clue on how
> to add more memory (evne 266 I think is not decent enough, XP is still
> sluggish then).
>
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 02:48:31 +0100, "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]
> NETMaster" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote:
>
> >
> >But the 21MB runtime contains the command line C#/VB compilers.
>

Chris R Chapman

12/11/2002 4:34:00 PM

0

Whoa! Holy panic batman!

A lot of your questions can be answered by looking at the MSDN website--
but I'll answer some here:

1) The .Net SDK only runs on NT 4 with at least SP 6a, Win2K or WinXP
2) The SDK contains the compilers -- csc, vbc, etc.
3) Using the .Net Framework, you can run .Net "compiled" applications on a
number of Win platforms, pursuant to the caveats for each-- ie, that the
client has access to the resources that were developed against.
4) No, there isn't a way to get the compilers from the runtime.
5) SharpDevelop requires you to install the SDK before running their
application-- I think it will run without the SDK (some versions), but when
it comes to compiling you'll be S.O.L.
6) All the online documentation you need for the Framework and .Net SDK can
be had at http://msdn.mic... --- just search for what you need-- .Net
SDK, .Net this, .Net that, etc.
7) Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but I recommend an upgrade from
ME to 2K or XP -- on the upside, you'll get a more stable O/S and since it
would be an upgrade, you'd be eligible for discount pricing.

Cheers,

--
Chris R Chapman
.Net Software Development Consultant
www.chapmanconsulting.ca
"holy_chapin" <holy_NOSPAM_chapin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ff5dvu429f6fh83vm7lflenk69mdnqv582@4ax.com...
> Hi-
> I plan to download the FRAMEWORK for .NET for WINDOWS ME, (the basic
> runtime, not the SDK). I also am downloading the SharpDevelop
> IDE/compiler. I'd like to configure it to work with WINDOWS ME.
>
> Also, what about the SDK? I know it doesn't run on ME (the full SDK,
> 131 mb I think). Am I just missing a lot of docs, can I run anything
> in the SDK at all, how can I run them also without installing, is
> there anything that I can get from the SDK basically. I know there are
> some command line compilers but if I don't have the SDK that means
> SharpDevelop won't work at all right and I'll never be able to code or
> run a VB.NET application, right? Please help!
>
> I know I can develop applications in SharpDevelop with their form
> editor or their code editor but do they provide the compiler? What do
> I need to run the applications I create? the platform or the SDK? Is
> there a way to get the C# /VB compiler from the RUNTIME or do I need
> to have to have the SDK, is there any online docs if I can't have the
> SDK, and if I can't really "install" the SDK is there a way to get
> some of the command line compilers and things in the SDK needed to
> develop applications?
>
> PLEASE HELP, I know it is a lot of questions, but I would appreciate
> it so much.
>
> ~J
>

holy_chapin

12/12/2002 12:45:00 AM

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I'll find a way, but ther'es no way to upgrade with this horrible
computer. And no, there's no way to get a better one.

I'll find a way. That simple. When I have success I'll come cheering
back to you

On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:34:24 -0500, "Chris R Chapman"
<crchapman@nospamme.sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Whoa! Holy panic batman!
>
>A lot of your questions can be answered by looking at the MSDN website--
>but I'll answer some here:
>
>1) The .Net SDK only runs on NT 4 with at least SP 6a, Win2K or WinXP
>2) The SDK contains the compilers -- csc, vbc, etc.
>3) Using the .Net Framework, you can run .Net "compiled" applications on a
>number of Win platforms, pursuant to the caveats for each-- ie, that the
>client has access to the resources that were developed against.
>4) No, there isn't a way to get the compilers from the runtime.
>5) SharpDevelop requires you to install the SDK before running their
>application-- I think it will run without the SDK (some versions), but when
>it comes to compiling you'll be S.O.L.
>6) All the online documentation you need for the Framework and .Net SDK can
>be had at http://msdn.mic... --- just search for what you need-- .Net
>SDK, .Net this, .Net that, etc.
>7) Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but I recommend an upgrade from
>ME to 2K or XP -- on the upside, you'll get a more stable O/S and since it
>would be an upgrade, you'd be eligible for discount pricing.
>
>Cheers,

holy_chapin

12/12/2002 1:35:00 AM

0

"But the 21MB runtime contains the command line C#/VB compilers." --

And you would know this because.....

On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 02:48:31 +0100, "Thomas Scheidegger [MVP]
NETMaster" <spam.netmaster@swissonline.ch> wrote:

>Please don't repeat to cross-post that wide.
>
>Note, Windows 98/ME are no longer developer platforms,
>so the full [130MB] .NET SDK in NOT supported on this OS.
> => Update to Windows XP.
>
>But the 21MB runtime contains the command line C#/VB compilers.
>
>For SharpDevelop, ask the owner:
> http://www.icsharpcode.net/Open...

holy_chapin

12/12/2002 5:25:00 AM

0

On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:34:24 -0500, "Chris R Chapman"
<crchapman@nospamme.sympatico.ca> wrote:


>4) No, there isn't a way to get the compilers from the runtime.

I just checked it and the Runtime (redist) includes all compilers
including even the .NET Assembler language compiler. Yippeee!!!

Bert Hyman

12/26/2002 7:23:00 PM

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crchapman@nospamme.sympatico.ca (Chris R Chapman) wrote in
news:e8wf6nSoCHA.2584@TK2MSFTNGP11:

> 7) Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but I recommend an
> upgrade from ME to 2K or XP -- on the upside, you'll get a more
> stable O/S and since it would be an upgrade, you'd be eligible for
> discount pricing.

Worse than that, if I read the original post(s) correctly, the poster
is using an Emachine "667ix" in its base configuration, which is a
667MHz Celeron with 64MB RAM.

I shudder to think about running XP and any dotNet development
environment in that world.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@visi.com