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Aquila

3/17/2005 4:57:00 PM

I know a lot of free hosters who support PHP etc. but I'd rather try Rails.
Does anyone know of a free hosting who offers Rails?
Unfortunately as a student I can't afford paid hosting on eg. Textdrive...
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24 Answers

Dick Davies

3/17/2005 8:50:00 PM

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* Aquila <braempje@netscape.net> [0359 16:59]:
> I know a lot of free hosters who support PHP etc. but I'd rather try Rails.
> Does anyone know of a free hosting who offers Rails?

Nope. If you just want to try it, why not get a Linux distro and run it on that?

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Lothar Scholz

3/17/2005 10:05:00 PM

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Hello Aquila,

A> I know a lot of free hosters who support PHP etc. but I'd rather try Rails.
A> Does anyone know of a free hosting who offers Rails?
A> Unfortunately as a student I can't afford paid hosting on eg. Textdrive...

Please remember that Rails is from a CPU/Memory cost perspective
more comparable with Java or other application server technologies.
It absolutely makes no sense for any hoster to offer something like this.
It is also difficult to setup because you need a FCGI. mod_ruby does
still not work in a shared hosting environment.

If you are a student you can maybe ask someone in your university.


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Wes Moxam

3/18/2005 5:22:00 AM

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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 01:59:44 +0900, Aquila <braempje@netscape.net> wrote:
> I know a lot of free hosters who support PHP etc. but I'd rather try Rails.
> Does anyone know of a free hosting who offers Rails?
> Unfortunately as a student I can't afford paid hosting on eg. Textdrive...
> --
> "May the source be with you"
>
>

I wrote a little piece on getting Typo to run on a freeshell.org
account (which is free!)
You will notice it is a bit slow as I was unable to get fcgi working,
but I'm going to get it working next week.

You can find the article here: http://wmoxam.fre...

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Robby Russell

3/18/2005 5:52:00 AM

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On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 01:59 +0900, Aquila wrote:
> I know a lot of free hosters who support PHP etc. but I'd rather try Rails.
> Does anyone know of a free hosting who offers Rails?
> Unfortunately as a student I can't afford paid hosting on eg. Textdrive...

Free is going to be difficult to find at the moment. If you're smart,
you'll start an open source project and often times, open source
friendly hosting companies (like mine) will sometimes give you a nice
discount on their hosting rates.

If you do find any free companies, make sure you let others know so that
they can find a place to go as well. :-)

Cheers,

Robby

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Martin DeMello

3/18/2005 6:29:00 AM

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Wes Moxam <wildwildwes@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I wrote a little piece on getting Typo to run on a freeshell.org
> account (which is free!)

Fascinating project. In practice, is there an actual community built up
around it, or just a bunch of individual users?

martin

gabriele renzi

3/18/2005 10:30:00 AM

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Dick Davies ha scritto:
> * Aquila <braempje@netscape.net> [0359 16:59]:
>
>>I know a lot of free hosters who support PHP etc. but I'd rather try Rails.
>>Does anyone know of a free hosting who offers Rails?
>
>
> Nope. If you just want to try it, why not get a Linux distro and run it on that?
>

because it also runs just fine on other platforms ;)

Aquila

3/18/2005 12:55:00 PM

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Dick Davies wrote:

> Nope. If you just want to try it, why not get a Linux distro and run it on
> that?
>

It works on a local machine, but I'd like to have a site running on Rails.
My bandwith quotas don't allow it, and my machine isn't always on either.
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Wes Moxam

3/18/2005 1:23:00 PM

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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:29:55 +0900, Martin DeMello
<martindemello@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Wes Moxam <wildwildwes@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I wrote a little piece on getting Typo to run on a freeshell.org
> > account (which is free!)
>
> Fascinating project. In practice, is there an actual community built up
> around it, or just a bunch of individual users?
>
> martin
>

In my experience it's a bunch on individual users. However, it's been
around for a long time (since 1987) and I have a feeling that it was
more of a community in the past before there were blogs, hml based
discussion forumns, etc. I'd imagine that the long time users form
more of a community than all of us "newbies" who have joined since
the mid nineties.

-- Wes

Wes Moxam

3/18/2005 1:25:00 PM

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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:00:05 +0900, Aquila <braempje@netscape.net> wrote:
> Dick Davies wrote:
>
> > Nope. If you just want to try it, why not get a Linux distro and run it on
> > that?
> >
>
> It works on a local machine, but I'd like to have a site running on Rails.
> My bandwith quotas don't allow it, and my machine isn't always on either.
> --
> "May the source be with you"
>

A free shell account will do the job if you're willing to sacrifice some speed.

-- Wes

Eric Hodel

3/18/2005 10:30:00 PM

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On 17 Mar 2005, at 14:05, Lothar Scholz wrote:

> Hello Aquila,
>
> A> I know a lot of free hosters who support PHP etc. but I'd rather
> try Rails.
> A> Does anyone know of a free hosting who offers Rails?
> A> Unfortunately as a student I can't afford paid hosting on eg.
> Textdrive...
>
> Please remember that Rails is from a CPU/Memory cost perspective
> more comparable with Java or other application server technologies.

43 Things averages 46661 KB/Rails process (we peak at 200,000
pageviews/day running 40 processes FastCGI across 2 servers). Most of
the time load hovers around 0.10 to 0.20 (we have dual 3GHz Xeons with
2GB RAM), but peaks at about 0.50.

In an emergency, we can run the entire site off of one box with only 20
FastCGI processes with no performance degradation.

I was under the impression that Java takes up a much larger memory
footprint, but have never actually used it so I can't say how much
memory it takes. I have no idea how much CPU an equivalent Java site
would use.

Please provide some relevant data about how much memory/CPU a Java site
would need to have equivalent performance.

People have just managed to fit Rails into 64MB virtual servers. I
doubt you could do the same with a Java app.

> It absolutely makes no sense for any hoster to offer something like
> this.

I disagree and feel that this is a statement that carries a great deal
of ignorance.

I believe people have gotten Rails to fit in a 64MB virtual server with
a shoehorn. There's been some discussion of this on the Rails mailing
list. It would make perfect sense for a host to offer free 64MB
virtual servers because the sandbox is much easier to manage.

> It is also difficult to setup because you need a FCGI.

I've not found this at all difficult, and judging from the Rails
mailing list, many, many people have found it pretty darn simple with
only a few well-documented gotchas. This leads me to believe difficult
is entirely the wrong word to use.

Installing involves about 4 lines added to the httpd.conf and
installing 3 packages. FastCGI is common enough that packages
(FreeBSD's ports tree, in my case) are very readily available.

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