Asp Forum - Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement

Eric Hodel

3/12/2005 2:28:00 AM

Seattle.rb will be hosting a RubyGems cleanup and enhancement codefest!

We would like to solicit your ideas on what you want to see cleaned up
or enhanced in RubyGems.

For our Codefest we do not plan on making large changes to the way
RubyGems works. One thing we would like to focus on is making the gem
command more friendly when you hit ^C, for example.

Combining RPA and Gems is probably not going to be done during our
Codefest.

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46 Answers

Curt Hibbs

3/12/2005 5:07:00 AM

Eric Hodel wrote:
>
> Seattle.rb will be hosting a RubyGems cleanup and enhancement codefest!
>
> We would like to solicit your ideas on what you want to see cleaned up
> or enhanced in RubyGems.
>
> For our Codefest we do not plan on making large changes to the way
> RubyGems works. One thing we would like to focus on is making the gem
> command more friendly when you hit ^C, for example.

This is probably not feasible, but I'll throw it out there anyway -- I'd
like to see a GUI front-end to RubyGems... a RubyGems browser of sorts. Rich
Kilmer started on one, but I don't think it got finished (if it did, I would
already have it in the One-Click Ruby Installer).

Curt

James Britt

3/12/2005 5:23:00 AM

Curt Hibbs wrote:

>
> This is probably not feasible, but I'll throw it out there anyway -- I'd
> like to see a GUI front-end to RubyGems... a RubyGems browser of sorts. Rich
> Kilmer started on one, but I don't think it got finished (if it did, I would
> already have it in the One-Click Ruby Installer).

Isn't that what RubySlippers is?

James

Curt Hibbs

3/12/2005 5:53:00 AM

James Britt wrote:
>
> Curt Hibbs wrote:
>
> >
> > This is probably not feasible, but I'll throw it out there anyway -- I'd
> > like to see a GUI front-end to RubyGems... a RubyGems browser
> of sorts. Rich
> > Kilmer started on one, but I don't think it got finished (if it
> did, I would
> > already have it in the One-Click Ruby Installer).
>
>
> Isn't that what RubySlippers is?

Have you tried it? I would call it a primitive web front-end, and pretty
clunky at that.

What I want is something like a news reader, or windows file explorer. A
desktop GUI with a tree control on the left and a detail panel of sorts on
the right. With the ability to mount and browse multiple repositories as
well as your installed gems.

Curt

gabriele renzi

3/12/2005 9:36:00 AM

Eric Hodel ha scritto:
> Seattle.rb will be hosting a RubyGems cleanup and enhancement codefest!
>
> We would like to solicit your ideas on what you want to see cleaned up
> or enhanced in RubyGems.
>
> For our Codefest we do not plan on making large changes to the way
> RubyGems works. One thing we would like to focus on is making the gem
> command more friendly when you hit ^C, for example.

definitely, ATM, rubygems does not feel "fault tolerant".
One little thing I'd appreciate is some kind of feedback for the user
like a progress bar both in downloading and upgrading cache.
And i would greatly appreciate speed, both in the way "gem" works and in
how the require thing work.

Oh, and and it would be cool to be able to use a .gem file the way a
..jar is used in java (but this would require using zip instead of gzip,
AFAICT).

> Combining RPA and Gems is probably not going to be done during our
> Codefest.

:)

James Britt

3/12/2005 2:24:00 PM

Curt Hibbs wrote:
> James Britt wrote:
>
>>Curt Hibbs wrote:
>>
>>
>>>This is probably not feasible, but I'll throw it out there anyway -- I'd
>>>like to see a GUI front-end to RubyGems... a RubyGems browser
>>
>>of sorts. Rich
>>
>>>Kilmer started on one, but I don't think it got finished (if it
>>
>>did, I would
>>
>>>already have it in the One-Click Ruby Installer).
>>
>>
>>Isn't that what RubySlippers is?
>
>
> Have you tried it? I would call it a primitive web front-end, and pretty
> clunky at that.

I've used it, and it's not bad, but not the native-OS app I would prefer.

James

Richard Lyman

3/12/2005 4:01:00 PM

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:07:19 +0900, Curt Hibbs <curt@hibbs.com> wrote:
> Eric Hodel wrote:
> >
> > Seattle.rb will be hosting a RubyGems cleanup and enhancement codefest!
> >
> > We would like to solicit your ideas on what you want to see cleaned up
> > or enhanced in RubyGems.
>
> This is probably not feasible, but I'll throw it out there anyway -- I'd
> like to see a GUI front-end to RubyGems... a RubyGems browser of sorts. Rich
> Kilmer started on one, but I don't think it got finished (if it did, I would
> already have it in the One-Click Ruby Installer).
>
> Curt
>

Yeah - I made a quick-n-dirty mockup that I gave Rich Kilmer and fully
expected pretty much everything to be redone, but I haven't seen
anything yet. For that matter, I haven't heard too much from him on
this list recently... being busy can be good though...

I really feel that until we have a _simple to use_ GUI (something like
synaptic), no method of 'making packages available' is going to appeal
to the general populous (sp?) until then... anyway...

I have no idea where my little mockup went, but it only took an hour
or so to do, so if someone wanted to, it wouldn't take them long to do
their own over again.

-Rich

Curt Hibbs

3/12/2005 4:09:00 PM

Richard Lyman wrote:
>
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:07:19 +0900, Curt Hibbs <curt@hibbs.com> wrote:
> > Eric Hodel wrote:
> > >
> > > Seattle.rb will be hosting a RubyGems cleanup and enhancement
> codefest!
> > >
> > > We would like to solicit your ideas on what you want to see cleaned up
> > > or enhanced in RubyGems.
> >
> > This is probably not feasible, but I'll throw it out there anyway -- I'd
> > like to see a GUI front-end to RubyGems... a RubyGems browser
> of sorts. Rich
> > Kilmer started on one, but I don't think it got finished (if it
> did, I would
> > already have it in the One-Click Ruby Installer).
> >
> > Curt
> >
>
> Yeah - I made a quick-n-dirty mockup that I gave Rich Kilmer and fully
> expected pretty much everything to be redone, but I haven't seen
> anything yet. For that matter, I haven't heard too much from him on
> this list recently... being busy can be good though...
>
> I really feel that until we have a _simple to use_ GUI (something like
> synaptic), no method of 'making packages available' is going to appeal
> to the general populous (sp?) until then... anyway...

I completely agree. That's why I'm *very* interested in getting a GUI
front-end to RubyGems into the One-Click installer, and on Windows and the
upcoming installer for OSX.

> I have no idea where my little mockup went, but it only took an hour
> or so to do, so if someone wanted to, it wouldn't take them long to do
> their own over again.

Did you use FXRiuby? Anyway, I knew it was a long shot, but it would be
great if they decided to pick this up.

Curt

Martin DeMello

3/12/2005 5:34:00 PM

Richard Lyman <lymans@gmail.com> wrote:
> synaptic), no method of 'making packages available' is going to appeal
> to the general populous (sp?) until then... anyway...

'populace'

martin

Marcel Molina Jr.

3/12/2005 5:55:00 PM

On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 11:27:48AM +0900, Eric Hodel wrote:
> Seattle.rb will be hosting a RubyGems cleanup and enhancement codefest!

Glad to see this happen.

> We would like to solicit your ideas on what you want to see cleaned up
> or enhanced in RubyGems.

*gem query*

will list all gems matching a particular criteria. The
domain may be local, remote or both.

$ gem query -R -n ^m

*gem search*

will list all gems whose name "contains" the given
(case-insensitive) string. If no string is provided, all gems will
be listed.

$ gem search -r log

So one supports regex matches and the other doesn't? One is meant only for
remote queries and the other is indifferent?

There seems to be some overlap here. Perhaps these could be combined into one
command. Perhaps the documentation could be clarified to indicate more
expressly how they *do* differ.

marcel
--
Marcel Molina Jr. <marcel@vernix.org>

Richard Lyman

3/12/2005 11:57:00 PM

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 01:08:43 +0900, Curt Hibbs <curt@hibbs.com> wrote:

<snip>

> > > This is probably not feasible, but I'll throw it out there anyway -- I'd
> > > like to see a GUI front-end to RubyGems... a RubyGems browser
> > of sorts.

<snip>

> > I have no idea where my little mockup went, but it only took an hour
> > or so to do, so if someone wanted to, it wouldn't take them long to do
> > their own over again.
>
> Did you use FXRiuby? Anyway, I knew it was a long shot, but it would be
> great if they decided to pick this up.
>
> Curt
>

Yeah - FXRuby. If I wasn't so swamped with school stuff I'd be more
than happy to make a little mockup again... it wasn't that hard... an
FXTreeList on the left side, with some textfields and stuff on the
right for packet specific info...

Like I said though - it was a pretty poor mockup. I really hoped they
would take it to a much higher level (which is probably why I've been
content waiting...).

Maybe I shouldn't wait any more... it would be fun... grr... I _have_
to concentrate on school... This couldn't wait until the end of April
could it? I'd have ~20 a week free time then...

-Rich

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Codefest Grant - RubyGems cleanup and enhancement

Eric Hodel

Curt Hibbs

James Britt

Curt Hibbs

gabriele renzi

James Britt

Richard Lyman

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