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what about a rails-based gforge like?

Lionel Thiry

3/12/2005 1:06:00 AM

Hello!

Motivated people have recently formed the VIT (visual identity team). I believe
they tend to work with rails. And I think rubyforge is on their roadmap. Are
these statements exact?

So, when ruby-lang is done, when ruby-doc is done and when time comes to tackle
rubyforge visual identity with rails help, how will they painlessly fullfill
that work without a previously well prepared rails-based replacement for GForge?

Then my question is, isn't there a need for a rails-based gforge like framework?

What do you all think about this?

Regards,
Lionel Thiry
4 Answers

gabriele renzi

3/12/2005 9:40:00 AM

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Lionel Thiry ha scritto:

> Then my question is, isn't there a need for a rails-based gforge like
> framework?
> What do you all think about this?
>
> Regards,
> Lionel Thiry


I am one of those that would like an "in ruby" version of almost
anything, but I think gforge and his cousins (savane, berlios and so on)
are quite complex projects, and I think rewriting them in ruby won't
grant you any advantage, and will take a lot of time.
And you have to consider that redesigning a web page may require just a
little php and css hacking, wich is not necessarily a huge work.

Lionel Thiry

3/12/2005 1:09:00 PM

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gabriele renzi wrote:
> Lionel Thiry ha scritto:
>
>> Then my question is, isn't there a need for a rails-based gforge like
>> framework?
>
> > What do you all think about this?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Lionel Thiry
>
>
> I am one of those that would like an "in ruby" version of almost
> anything, but I think gforge and his cousins (savane, berlios and so on)
> are quite complex projects, and I think rewriting them in ruby won't
> grant you any advantage, and will take a lot of time.
> And you have to consider that redesigning a web page may require just a
> little php and css hacking, wich is not necessarily a huge work.

One of the main claim of rails folks is that "With rails, it is (up to) 10 times
faster to develop a web application". And I suppose it is still so when hacking
a rails app.

Then I believe that developing a GForge like rails application wouldn't be a so
huge work than the original framework was with PHP, and we would benefit of
higher flexibility and reliability.

This is what I believe. But I was asking for opinions. Does Gabriel Renzi's
opinion resume everybody else's opinion?

Regards,
Lionel Thiry

James

3/12/2005 3:56:00 PM

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"Lionel Thiry" <lthiryidontwantspam@skynetnospam.be> wrote in message
news:<42324094$0$28072$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
> Hello!
>
> Motivated people have recently formed the VIT (visual identity team). I
believe
> they tend to work with rails. And I think rubyforge is on their roadmap.
Are
> these statements exact?
>
> So, when ruby-lang is done, when ruby-doc is done and when time comes to
tackle
> rubyforge visual identity with rails help, how will they painlessly
fullfill
> that work without a previously well prepared rails-based replacement for
GForge?

I'm on the vit-discuss mailing list, and this is the first I've heard of any
plans to do anything with rubyforge. But who knows? People get ambitious.
The ruby-doc redesign is unrelated to the VIT efforts. And while some number
of people working on the ruby-lang.org redesign may use Rails for one thing
or another, I'm am unaware of it playing any special role in the redesign
project. The mockups are posted to a blog running Hobbix. The discussion
happens on a mailing list written on Python.

About the only connection to Rails is that one of the mockups reminds me of
the Rails home page.

>
> Then my question is, isn't there a need for a rails-based gforge like
framework?

There may be a need for a *Ruby* version of gforge. Maybe. Whether it gets
built using Rails, Nitro, Wee, or something else is another matter
altogether.


James

Martin DeMello

3/12/2005 5:36:00 PM

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Lionel Thiry <lthiryidontwantspam@skynetnospam.be> wrote:
>
> One of the main claim of rails folks is that "With rails, it is (up
> to) 10 times faster to develop a web application". And I suppose it is
> still so when hacking a rails app.

I don't think of GForge as primarily a webapp, even though the frontend
uses the web. There are a lot of complex details on the server side that
would have to be redone for very little gain.

martin