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Re: Gateway broken?

ES

3/10/2005 9:50:00 PM

On Thu, March 10, 2005 9:38 pm, Berger, Daniel said:
> Hi all,
>
> It appears that messages posted to google groups are not making it the
> ML again.

Yep, it sure is broken. I'm also getting some sort of bounce messages?

> Can we please fix? Thanks.
>
> Dan

E
14 Answers

Dennis Oelkers

3/10/2005 10:38:00 PM

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Hey folks,

ES wrote:

>On Thu, March 10, 2005 9:38 pm, Berger, Daniel said:
>
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>It appears that messages posted to google groups are not making it the
>>ML again.
>>
>>
>
>Yep, it sure is broken. I'm also getting some sort of bounce messages?
>
>
If you supply me with some msg-ids and/or subjects, I will investigate
it, and check if there really
is a problem at the gateway.
Anyway: the gateway does not send bounce messages of any kind to anyone.

Kind regards,
Dennis Oelkers

James Gray

3/10/2005 10:44:00 PM

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On Mar 10, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Dennis Oelkers wrote:

> If you supply me with some msg-ids and/or subjects, I will investigate
> it, and check if there really is a problem at the gateway.

The gateway has been one way for several days now. A quick trip to
Google Groups shows it well. I had a lot of trouble with this during
this weeks Ruby Quiz. Here's the two submissions that never came to
the mailing list:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/65a71c...

and

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/3bcab0...

> Anyway: the gateway does not send bounce messages of any kind to
> anyone.

I too am seeing this odd behavior, whatever the cause.

James Edward Gray II

Joel VanderWerf

3/10/2005 10:44:00 PM

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Dennis Oelkers wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> ES wrote:
>
>> On Thu, March 10, 2005 9:38 pm, Berger, Daniel said:
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> It appears that messages posted to google groups are not making it the
>>> ML again.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yep, it sure is broken. I'm also getting some sort of bounce messages?
>>
>>
> If you supply me with some msg-ids and/or subjects, I will investigate
> it, and check if there really
> is a problem at the gateway.
> Anyway: the gateway does not send bounce messages of any kind to anyone.
>
> Kind regards,
> Dennis Oelkers
>

One example: the recent thread on "priority queue using RBTree". My
posts to the list went to the list and ng. The reply from Arah Howard
was not forwarded to the list (I only found out about it because he
addressed it to me as well).

Thanks!

--
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http://www.path.be... FAX (510) 231-9565

Dennis Oelkers

3/10/2005 11:15:00 PM

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Hey James,

James Edward Gray II wrote:

>> Anyway: the gateway does not send bounce messages of any kind to anyone.
>
>
> I too am seeing this odd behavior, whatever the cause.

It would be helpful if you (or anyone else receiving any bounces) would
forward them
to me (keeping all headers as they are), so I can check out if they
really originate at the
gateway.

Kind regards,
Dennis Oelkers

Hal E. Fulton

3/10/2005 11:18:00 PM

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Dennis Oelkers wrote:
> Hey James,
>
> James Edward Gray II wrote:
>
>>> Anyway: the gateway does not send bounce messages of any kind to anyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> I too am seeing this odd behavior, whatever the cause.
>
>
> It would be helpful if you (or anyone else receiving any bounces) would
> forward them
> to me (keeping all headers as they are), so I can check out if they
> really originate at the
> gateway.

I've seen this -- my impression has been that it's a symptom of
the mailing list itself.


Hal

Dennis Oelkers

3/11/2005 8:47:00 AM

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Hal Fulton wrote:

> I've seen this -- my impression has been that it's a symptom of
> the mailing list itself.
>
Yes, those bounces are definitely not related to the gateway at all.
I guess they result from a subscribes broken mta which is using the
return-path to send the bounce to the original posted instead of the
mailing list host.

Kind regards,
Dennis Oelkers

Christian Neukirchen

3/11/2005 1:41:00 PM

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Dennis Oelkers <dennis@lauschmusik.de> writes:

> Hal Fulton wrote:
>
>> I've seen this -- my impression has been that it's a symptom of
>> the mailing list itself.
>>
> Yes, those bounces are definitely not related to the gateway at all.
> I guess they result from a subscribes broken mta which is using the
> return-path to send the bounce to the original posted instead of the
> mailing list host.
>
> Kind regards,
> Dennis Oelkers

I already mailed the ml admins to remove that particular subscription,
but didn't get any reply yet.

That paricular host (arch.dtop.jp) drops mail to postmaster, btw.

--
Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> http://chneuk...

Yukihiro Matsumoto

3/11/2005 1:50:00 PM

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Hello,

In message "Re: Gateway broken?"
on Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:41:24 +0900, Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> writes:

|I already mailed the ml admins to remove that particular subscription,
|but didn't get any reply yet.

I think I missed your mail.

|That paricular host (arch.dtop.jp) drops mail to postmaster, btw.

We don't have any subscribe member from dtop.jp. Maybe he is
forwarding his mail.

matz.

Christian Neukirchen

3/11/2005 4:56:00 PM

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Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> writes:

> |That paricular host (arch.dtop.jp) drops mail to postmaster, btw.
>
> We don't have any subscribe member from dtop.jp. Maybe he is
> forwarding his mail.

I guess it's time for another line in my fetchmailrc then. :-/

> matz.
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James Gray

3/15/2005 2:11:00 AM

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On Mar 10, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Dennis Oelkers wrote:

> If you supply me with some msg-ids and/or subjects, I will investigate
> it, and check if there really is a problem at the gateway.

Any word on the status of the gateway? Thanks.

James Edward Gray II