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ANN: 2005 International Obfuscated Ruby Code Contest (IORCC

Todd Nathan

2/21/2005 3:29:00 PM

Dear Fellow Rubists,

My name is Todd Nathan, and it is with great pleasure
to annouce the opening of 2005 IORCC. The Official
International Obfuscated Ruby Code Contest Rules and
FAQ are now online. Please consider entering your
most obfuscated Ruby program, or becoming a judge.

The Official IORCC site: http://iorcc.d...

Warm regards,

Todd Nathan
IORCC Founder/Judge
(SeaForth) irc://irc.freenode.net/
http://iorcc.d...

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41 Answers

Josef 'Jupp' Schugt

2/22/2005 9:38:00 PM

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Todd Nathan wrote:
> it is with great pleasure to annouce the opening of 2005 IORCC.

1st price: "Advanced Obfuscation: Perl for Ruby Programmers"
2nd price: "More Awkward Obfuscation: AWK for Ruby Programmers"
3rd price: "Obfuscation by Parenthesis: Lisp for Ruby Programmers"
4th price: "How to shoot yourself in the foot"

An ORCC doesn't seem to be a good idea. I already hear them saying "See
this? They keep on saying that Ruby code is much cleaner than Perl code.
Don't believe their lies."

Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
--
Currently running Aurox 10.1 Quicksilver.



Alexander Kellett

2/22/2005 10:20:00 PM

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you're just annoyed cus you can't write crap code!
well i can! so let me at it! yay! yay me! etc. oh.
erm. ummm. la la la

On Feb 22, 2005, at 10:37 PM, Josef 'Jupp' Schugt wrote:
> An ORCC doesn't seem to be a good idea. I already hear them saying "See
> this? They keep on saying that Ruby code is much cleaner than Perl
> code.
> Don't believe their lies."



Yukihiro Matsumoto

2/22/2005 11:08:00 PM

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Hi,

In message "Re: ANN: 2005 International Obfuscated Ruby Code Contest (IORCC)"
on Wed, 23 Feb 2005 06:37:50 +0900, Josef 'Jupp' Schugt <jupp@gmx.de> writes:

|An ORCC doesn't seem to be a good idea. I already hear them saying "See
|this? They keep on saying that Ruby code is much cleaner than Perl code.
|Don't believe their lies."

Well, it is a good chance to prove them we can write pretty unreadable
code as well as readable code.

matz.


Sam Roberts

2/22/2005 11:12:00 PM

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Quoting matz@ruby-lang.org, on Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 08:07:49AM +0900:
> Hi,
>
> In message "Re: ANN: 2005 International Obfuscated Ruby Code Contest (IORCC)"
> on Wed, 23 Feb 2005 06:37:50 +0900, Josef 'Jupp' Schugt <jupp@gmx.de> writes:
>
> |An ORCC doesn't seem to be a good idea. I already hear them saying "See
> |this? They keep on saying that Ruby code is much cleaner than Perl code.
> |Don't believe their lies."

Powerful languages allow obfuscation. Weak languages only allow garbage
code.

Anybody looking at the code in an obfuscated coding contest as an
example of how unreadable a language is severely misses the point.

Sam



dblack

2/22/2005 11:23:00 PM

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Ochronus

2/22/2005 11:26:00 PM

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Josef 'Jupp' Schugt írta:

> Todd Nathan wrote:
>
>> it is with great pleasure to annouce the opening of 2005 IORCC.
>
>
> 1st price: "Advanced Obfuscation: Perl for Ruby Programmers"
> 2nd price: "More Awkward Obfuscation: AWK for Ruby Programmers"
> 3rd price: "Obfuscation by Parenthesis: Lisp for Ruby Programmers"
> 4th price: "How to shoot yourself in the foot"
>
> An ORCC doesn't seem to be a good idea. I already hear them saying "See
> this? They keep on saying that Ruby code is much cleaner than Perl code.
> Don't believe their lies."
>
> Josef 'Jupp' Schugt

Obfuscated codes promote exactly two things, not less, not more:
1, the flexibility of the target language
2, the talent and creativity of the author

I can only look up to those who write such high quality codes :) It does
not mean that they are
not capable to write clean, well-structured ones, on the contrary, most
of the times it shows their
deep understanding of both "sides".

For another point, any idea which puts ruby in the spotlight is more
than welcomed, I think, for
what ruby needs now more than anything else is popularity... and fun
around it, like this obfuscated
contest or the ruby quiz is exactly the thing for it - improving morale,
stirring up any still water, etc.


Regards,
Ochronus



Bill Guindon

2/22/2005 11:43:00 PM

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:23:08 +0900, David A. Black <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:
> Hi --
>
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > In message "Re: ANN: 2005 International Obfuscated Ruby Code Contest (IORCC)"
> > on Wed, 23 Feb 2005 06:37:50 +0900, Josef 'Jupp' Schugt <jupp@gmx.de> writes:
> >
> > |An ORCC doesn't seem to be a good idea. I already hear them saying "See
> > |this? They keep on saying that Ruby code is much cleaner than Perl code.
> > |Don't believe their lies."
> >
> > Well, it is a good chance to prove them we can write pretty unreadable
> > code as well as readable code.
>
> Is that "pretty" as in "somewhat", or "pretty" as in "nice-looking"?
> :-)

How about "pretty" and "pretty unreadable"?
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-t...

I'm still impressed by that one (obviously)

--
Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)


Shalev NessAiver

2/23/2005 12:05:00 AM

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WoW


On Feb 22, 2005, at 6:42 PM, Bill Guindon wrote:
>
> How about "pretty" and "pretty unreadable"?
> http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-t...
>
> I'm still impressed by that one (obviously)
>
> --
> Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla)
>



Matt Lawrence

2/23/2005 12:21:00 AM

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Yukihiro Matsumoto

2/23/2005 1:08:00 AM

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In message "Re: ANN: 2005 International Obfuscated Ruby Code Contest (IORCC)"
on Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:23:08 +0900, "David A. Black" <dblack@wobblini.net> writes:

|> Well, it is a good chance to prove them we can write pretty unreadable
|> code as well as readable code.
|
|Is that "pretty" as in "somewhat", or "pretty" as in "nice-looking"?
|:-)

Both, of course. I'm glad you've found the pun.

matz.