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Re: Ruby Visual Identity Team

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2/17/2005 9:05:00 PM

> Lähettäjä: Francis Hwang <sera@fhwang.net>
> Aihe: Re: Ruby Visual Identity Team
>
>
> On Feb 17, 2005, at 12:17 AM, James Britt wrote:
>
> > I nominate me to redesign ruby-doc.org. I appreciate the offer, but
> > altering the aesthetics without changing the underlying behavior is
> > not going to work.
>
> Hear, hear. I think that the problem with Ruby's online presence is not
> a matter of visual appeal or the lack of nice logo. The problem with

A 'ruby' doesn't really lend itself for logos, so being that this is
a sleek, elegant, sneaky and fuzzy language, I vote the logo will be
of a cat:

^_^

Courier New, yellow on a red background :)

> Ruby's online presence is much more about functionality. For example,
> when I look at ruby-lang.org my first thought is not that the site has
> the wrong colors or fonts, but that the last post to the front page was
> in December ... which would make a newcomer think that Ruby is sleepy
> little language, and nothing of interest has happened to it in the last
> two months.
>
> This isn't meant as a criticism of James or whoever runs ruby-lang.org,
> just a suggestion that if you're not already involved and are looking
> to help out, it might be more helpful to 1) put more Ruby-related
> content on your own blog or 2) volunteer to help out with existing
> sites to help add or debug more features.
>
> > I'm unhappy with the series of boxes (too, um, boxy), but they'll do
> > while I sort out some other things. Adding neat curved box corners
> > and other visual treats has been put aside while I nail down behavior.
> > Once that is stable it will easier to apply the appropriate styling.
>
> So James, are you planning on moving away from the current blog-style
> front page, with individual dated posts? Personally I think that's the
> thing people want to see when they come to a front page: Plenty of
> activity.
>
> > Each box shows resources culled from links posted to del.icio.us.
> > Clicking the resource name just loads that page. Clicking the little
> > 'i' next to a resource shows you what people have posted it and their
> > extended comments. A modern browser is required. Haven't tested in
> > older browsers (or even many current ones), so field reports are
> > welcome so that it degrades nicely
>
> This can be done outside of a given web page, using the Tasty
> bookmarklet:
>
> http://enthusiasm.cozy.org/archives/2004/07/t...
>
> Personally I'm not too hot about embedding these sorts of tools in the
> web page itself.
>
> > The browse page is a variation on what I haphazardly described in my
> > RubyConf '04 talk. It organizes resources as tagged on del.icio.us;
> > the tricky part is automagically metatagging the del.icio.us tags so
> > that some higher-level grouping is feasible. In theory one should be
> > able to navigate through known Ruby docs and resources by drilling
> > down via facets, but it is not as clean as it should be.
>
> Cool. You might find Topic Maps useful for this, or maybe that's too
> heavyweight. I'm quite sure your not the only person trying to harvest
> good taxonomies out of a folksonomy like del.icio.us.
>
> > On a more general note, I'm all for people trying to clean up sites,
> > making suggestions, fixings links, getting things into better shape,
> > but I'm dead against any sort of formalization of the process across
> > multiple sites.
> >
> > I really, really believe that things happen in the Ruby community as
> > well as they do because people feel they can contribute something in a
> > community spirit while doing so in a personal manner. Trying to
> > enforce a uniform anything could be trouble; things tend best to arise
> > out of a loose consensus and running code.
>
> I very much agree. And I hope my comments above don't come across as
> suggestions, not really criticism: I use ruby-doc almost every day and
> am already pretty happy with it. Thanks, James!
>
> Francis Hwang
> http://f...

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1 Answer

Luke Graham

2/18/2005 1:41:00 AM

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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:04:43 +0900, E S <eero.saynatkari@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
> > Lähettäjä: Francis Hwang <sera@fhwang.net>
> > Aihe: Re: Ruby Visual Identity Team
> >
> >
> > On Feb 17, 2005, at 12:17 AM, James Britt wrote:
> >
> > > I nominate me to redesign ruby-doc.org. I appreciate the offer, but
> > > altering the aesthetics without changing the underlying behavior is
> > > not going to work.
> >
> > Hear, hear. I think that the problem with Ruby's online presence is not
> > a matter of visual appeal or the lack of nice logo. The problem with
>
> A 'ruby' doesn't really lend itself for logos, so being that this is
> a sleek, elegant, sneaky and fuzzy language, I vote the logo will be
> of a cat:
>
> ^_^


A Maneki Neko, perhaps? :)

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