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Fwd: OSCON Call For Proposals Now Open

Chad Fowler

1/20/2005 8:04:00 PM

Hi All. Attached is the announcement for this year's Oreilly Open
Source Convention call for participation.

This year's RubyConf (http://www.ru...) was alight with a new
level of buzz. As I said at the closing of the conference, it felt
somehow different and bigger than ever before.

I'd love to see us take that same feeling to OSCON this year, where
many of the leaders in the open source software world will be present.
We want _everyone_ to be talking about the Ruby track this year. :)

Hope to see you there,

Chad Fowler
http://chad...
http://rubyc...
http://ruby...
http://rubygems.rub... (over 50,000 gems served!)

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Subject: OSCON Call For Proposals Now Open
From: "O'Reilly Conferences" <elists-admin@oreillynet.com>
Date: Thu, January 20, 2005 2:21 pm
To: chadfowler@chadfowler.com
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The Call for Proposals has just opened for the
7th Annual O'Reilly Open Source Convention
http://conferences.oreillynet.c...

OSCON is headed back to friendly, economical Portland, Oregon during the
week of August 1-5, 2005. If you've ever wanted to join the OSCON speaker
firmament, now's your chance to submit a proposal (or two) by February 13,
2005.

Complete details are available on the OSCON web site, but we're
particularly interested in exploring how software development is moving to
another level, and how developers and businesses are adjusting to new
business models and architectures. We're looking for sessions, tutorials,
and workshops proposals that appeal to developers, systems and network
administrators, and their managers in the following areas:

- All aspects of building applications, services, and systems that use the
new capabilities of the open source platform
- Burning issues for Java, Mozilla, web apps, and beyond
- The commoditization of software: who and/or what can show us the money?
- Network-enabled collaboration
- Software customizability, including software as a service
- Law, licensing, politics, and how best to navigate other troubled waters

Specific topics and tracks at OSCON 2005 include: Linux and other open
source operating systems, Java, PHP, Python, Perl, Databases (including
MySQL and PostgreSQL), Apache, XML, Applications, Ruby, and Security.

Attendees have a wide range of experience, so be sure to target a
particular level of experience: beginner, intermediate, advanced. Talks
and tutorials should be technical; strictly no marketing presentations.
Session presentations are 45 or 90 minutes long, and tutorials are either
a half-day (3 hours) or a full day (6 hours).

Feel free to spread the word about the Call for Proposals to your friends,
family, colleagues, and compatriots. We want everyone to submit, from
American women hacking artificial life into the Linux kernel to Belgian
men building a better mousetrap from PHP and recycled military hardware.
We mean everyone!

Even if you don't want to participate as a speaker, send us your
suggestions--topics you'd like to see covered, groups we should bring into
the OSCON fold, extra-curricular activities we should organize--to
oscon-idea@oreilly.com .

This year, we're moving to the wide open spaces of the Oregon Convention
Center. We've arranged for the nearby Doubletree Hotel to be our
headquarters hotel--it's a short, free Max light rail ride (or a lovely
walk) from the Convention Center.

Registration opens in April 2005; hotel information will be available
shortly.

Deadline to submit a proposal is Midnight (PST), February 13.

For all the conference details, go to:
http://conferences.oreillynet.c...

Press coverage, blogs, photos, and news from the 2004 O'Reilly Open Source
Convention can be found at: http://www.oreillynet.com/...

Would your company like to make a big impression on the open source
community? If so, consider exhibiting or becoming a sponsor. Contact
Andrew Calvo at (707) 827-7176, or andrewc@oreilly.com for more info.

See you Portland next summer,

The O'Reilly OSCON Team

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23 Answers

David Heinemeier Hansson

1/21/2005 12:38:00 AM

0

> We want _everyone_ to be talking about the Ruby track this year. :)

I just submitted my proposal for a 3-hour tutorial with Ruby on Rails.
I'll do my very best to hype the living daylights out of it as we get
closer :)

Speaking of hype, 37signals just launched Ta-da List. 579 lines of Ruby
on Rails powering free shareable todo lists. Close to 4,000 people have
signed up in the first 36 hours and more than 25,000 items are already
being tracked.

Ta-da List:
http://www.ta...

Behind the tech:

http://weblog.rubyonrails.com/archives/2005/01/19/make-your-t...
today/

So "Re: Best ways to accelerate Ruby's popularity", it's been my
experience that doing cool applications that people like to use is the
best way of doing that. People always want to know what something is
made of when they like it.

Between now and August, that's certainly the prime strategy I intend to
employ to draw attention to the Ruby track at OSCON. Companies and
individuals launching enterprise and hobby projects using Ruby on Rails
left and right.

There's quite a long list of announcements in the pipeline on this
front. But I'm sure it won't go off quiet when they're ready to roll.
--
David Heinemeier Hansson,
http://www.basec... -- Web-based Project Management
http://www.rubyon... -- Web-application framework for Ruby
http://macro... -- TextMate: Code and markup editor (OS X)
http://www.loudthi... -- Broadcasting Brain

Jordi Bunster

1/21/2005 1:29:00 AM

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On Jan 20, 2005, at 7:38 PM, David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:

> Speaking of hype, 37signals just launched Ta-da List. 579 lines of
> Ruby on Rails powering free shareable todo lists. Close to 4,000
> people have signed up in the first 36 hours and more than 25,000 items
> are already being tracked.

Much like I did, I suspect many Ruby loving folks signed up just to
test, but there is no obvious way to close one's account.

I guess I'll keep it up to show it to other people.

--
Jordi

Francis Hwang

1/21/2005 1:40:00 AM

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On Jan 20, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Jordi Bunster wrote:

> Much like I did, I suspect many Ruby loving folks signed up just to
> test, but there is no obvious way to close one's account.
>

I'm one of those folks. I have to say that I was quite impressed by how
the site uses Javascript; it makes it quite nice if you're in a modern
browser. (I was using Safari.)

Then, curious about accessibility and graceful degradation, I tried
accessing my Ta-da page via Lynx, and got a handful of wonky behaviors
out of it. So I guess kinks are still being worked out. But then, I
personally never know how much to worry about people using textual
browsers anyway--and the site that I program for my day job doesn't
degrade gracefully either--so perhaps the point is fairly academic.

Francis Hwang
http://f...

Jordi Bunster

1/21/2005 1:53:00 AM

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On Jan 20, 2005, at 8:39 PM, Francis Hwang wrote:

> I personally never know how much to worry about people using textual
> browsers anyway--and the site that I program for my day job doesn't
> degrade gracefully either--so perhaps the point is fairly academic.

You're right, it is fairly academic, maybe except for the fact that if
it works OK in a text browser, you're halfway through on the job of
making it usable to the blind or near blind folks.

I realize that they are not part of everyone's target audience. What
you'd be surprised is how many people think that their target audience
doesn't cover the blind, when it fact by not caring about them they
lose a fair chunk of business.

--
Jordi

Douglas Livingstone

1/21/2005 2:04:00 AM

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:28:47 +0900, Jordi Bunster <jordi@bunster.org> wrote:
>
> On Jan 20, 2005, at 7:38 PM, David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
>
> > Speaking of hype, 37signals just launched Ta-da List. 579 lines of
> > Ruby on Rails powering free shareable todo lists. Close to 4,000
> > people have signed up in the first 36 hours and more than 25,000 items
> > are already being tracked.

Nice, 7 people for each line of code :)

Douglas

Francis Hwang

1/21/2005 2:09:00 AM

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On Jan 20, 2005, at 8:52 PM, Jordi Bunster wrote:

>
> On Jan 20, 2005, at 8:39 PM, Francis Hwang wrote:
>
>> I personally never know how much to worry about people using textual
>> browsers anyway--and the site that I program for my day job doesn't
>> degrade gracefully either--so perhaps the point is fairly academic.
>
> You're right, it is fairly academic, maybe except for the fact that if
> it works OK in a text browser, you're halfway through on the job of
> making it usable to the blind or near blind folks.
>
> I realize that they are not part of everyone's target audience. What
> you'd be surprised is how many people think that their target audience
> doesn't cover the blind, when it fact by not caring about them they
> lose a fair chunk of business.

Yeah, it's a tough call, especially as we see more web apps that use
this stuff really heavily -- another example is GMail, which I've heard
criticized for not being accessible. Sometimes I think that real
accessibility will happen only when we get past being HTML-centric in
designing our sites. I think we're creeping in that direction, though
it may take another decade to be more than just some research project.

Another thing that affects the calculation is who exactly Ta-Da list is
for. (I mean, other than a smart way to snare unsuspecting customers
into paying for Basecamp.) But I'm the sort of guy who can't use Ta-Da,
anyway, since I'm too hooked on my PDA. Even though most of the other
coders I know are quite proud of their notecard systems. Man, I
should've been a lawyer.

Francis Hwang
http://f...

Douglas Livingstone

1/21/2005 2:22:00 AM

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:08:36 +0900, Francis Hwang <sera@fhwang.net> wrote:
> Yeah, it's a tough call,

Note that it isn't a case of "can't do", but more of "takes time to
do". If you want to have a "normal" text interface, and a JS "rich"
one, it means you have to code everything twice. You need to have JS
which can manipulate HTML on the client side, plus Ruby on the server
side to generate exactly the same HTML!

Douglas

Francis Hwang

1/21/2005 2:31:00 AM

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On Jan 20, 2005, at 9:22 PM, Douglas Livingstone wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:08:36 +0900, Francis Hwang <sera@fhwang.net>
> wrote:
>> Yeah, it's a tough call,
>
> Note that it isn't a case of "can't do", but more of "takes time to
> do". If you want to have a "normal" text interface, and a JS "rich"
> one, it means you have to code everything twice. You need to have JS
> which can manipulate HTML on the client side, plus Ruby on the server
> side to generate exactly the same HTML!
>

Right, I think that avoiding this trouble is part of why some people
are trying to figure out ways to decouple a form's data & behaviors
from their specific implementations in HTML, JavaScript, etc ... so in
theory a User-Agent could tweak a form on the fly for a specific sort
of user (blind, novice, etc.) if things were specified right. XForms is
one example of this, though as to when they'll get off the ground is
anybody's guess. Just getting everyone behind one syndication standard
is tough enough ...

Francis Hwang
http://f...

James Britt

1/21/2005 3:54:00 AM

0

Francis Hwang wrote:
>
> On Jan 20, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Jordi Bunster wrote:
>
>> Much like I did, I suspect many Ruby loving folks signed up just to
>> test, but there is no obvious way to close one's account.
>>
>
> I'm one of those folks. I have to say that I was quite impressed by how
> the site uses Javascript; it makes it quite nice if you're in a modern
> browser. (I was using Safari.)
>
> Then, curious about accessibility and graceful degradation, I tried
> accessing my Ta-da page via Lynx, and got a handful of wonky behaviors
> out of it. So I guess kinks are still being worked out. But then, I
> personally never know how much to worry about people using textual
> browsers anyway--and the site that I program for my day job doesn't
> degrade gracefully either--so perhaps the point is fairly academic.


Maybe this is new, but on the front page is this:

"What web browsers are compatible with Ta-da List?

Ta-da requires Internet Explorer 6.x, Safari, or Firefox. Ta-da doesn't
work with Internet Explorer 5.x. Other browsers may or may not work, but
only the three listed are guaranteed compatible. Ta-da uses some
advanced Javascript to reduce the number of page reloads required, and
only certain modern browsers can support this."

James

Nicholas Van Weerdenburg

1/21/2005 4:03:00 AM

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:52:59 +0900, Jordi Bunster <jordi@bunster.org> wrote:
>
> On Jan 20, 2005, at 8:39 PM, Francis Hwang wrote:
>
> > I personally never know how much to worry about people using textual
> > browsers anyway--and the site that I program for my day job doesn't
> > degrade gracefully either--so perhaps the point is fairly academic.
>
> You're right, it is fairly academic, maybe except for the fact that if
> it works OK in a text browser, you're halfway through on the job of
> making it usable to the blind or near blind folks.
>
> I realize that they are not part of everyone's target audience. What
> you'd be surprised is how many people think that their target audience
> doesn't cover the blind, when it fact by not caring about them they
> lose a fair chunk of business.
>
> --
> Jordi
>
>

I've told that it's also a requirement for certain large customers-
e.g. the government. So if they fall in your customer base, you have
to think about it.

--
Nicholas Van Weerdenburg