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wl

8/16/2002 9:58:00 AM

Hi,

The list of supported devices for MMIT is impressed, yet I know of some WAP
phones that do not appear in the list of devices (like the new Ericssons).

Would this mean that MMIT possibily will not work on these devices or will
MMIT return standard WML pages in these cases ?

Thanks in advance,

Wim

4 Answers

Frank Tse \(MS\)

8/21/2002 8:17:00 PM

This is good question.

In general when there is a new device coming to the market. Usually there
could be one of 2 things to happen.

If the new device is similar to some of the existing supported devices, it
might just work right away. In this case, MMIT can simply return the markup
which can be recognized by the device. Or you might just need to add a new
capabilities section for such device in the configuration file, so the
existing device adapter can render accordingly based on the new capabilities
for this new device.

On the other hand, if the device is rendering quite differently, or even
support a completely new markup language than the existing ones, you can
still support it by providing a new set of adapters, and the new adapters
can render the markup accordingly for the new device. In this case, since
you are introducing new adapters, you will also need to provide the mapping
between the controls and the new adapters in the configuration file.

One note is that there will be continuous releases of Device Updates for
MMIT to incrementally support more devices. For more information you can
take a look at the download info at the end of the page
http://w.../download.aspx?...

Frank
http://w...
"This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights."

"wl" <sorry@nospam.be> wrote in message news:uCQ7EnPRCHA.1644@tkmsftngp08...
> Hi,
>
> The list of supported devices for MMIT is impressed, yet I know of some
WAP
> phones that do not appear in the list of devices (like the new Ericssons).
>
> Would this mean that MMIT possibily will not work on these devices or will
> MMIT return standard WML pages in these cases ?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Wim
>
>

wl

8/21/2002 8:36:00 PM

Frank,

For WAP enabled phones, would MMIT return WML pages then ?

Thanks,
Wim

"Frank Tse (MS)" <ftse@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OX10e7TSCHA.2400@tkmsftngp13...
> This is good question.
>
> In general when there is a new device coming to the market. Usually there
> could be one of 2 things to happen.
>
> If the new device is similar to some of the existing supported devices, it
> might just work right away. In this case, MMIT can simply return the
markup
> which can be recognized by the device. Or you might just need to add a
new
> capabilities section for such device in the configuration file, so the
> existing device adapter can render accordingly based on the new
capabilities
> for this new device.
>
> On the other hand, if the device is rendering quite differently, or even
> support a completely new markup language than the existing ones, you can
> still support it by providing a new set of adapters, and the new adapters
> can render the markup accordingly for the new device. In this case, since
> you are introducing new adapters, you will also need to provide the
mapping
> between the controls and the new adapters in the configuration file.
>
> One note is that there will be continuous releases of Device Updates for
> MMIT to incrementally support more devices. For more information you can
> take a look at the download info at the end of the page
> http://w.../download.aspx?...
>
> Frank
> http://w...
> "This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights."
>
> "wl" <sorry@nospam.be> wrote in message
news:uCQ7EnPRCHA.1644@tkmsftngp08...
> > Hi,
> >
> > The list of supported devices for MMIT is impressed, yet I know of some
> WAP
> > phones that do not appear in the list of devices (like the new
Ericssons).
> >
> > Would this mean that MMIT possibily will not work on these devices or
will
> > MMIT return standard WML pages in these cases ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Wim
> >
> >
>
>

Curt Fluegel

10/11/2002 6:28:00 PM

I noticed for the new Motorola C332 it doesn't work at all. There are no
listings for the MB Motorola Browser (other Motorola phones had used the
phone.com browser).

Anyone know how to "hack this in"? A tool to add new phone browsers would be
cool. The Browser Caps idea failed in ASP due to not keeping up, I wonder if
this will be better?

Curt

"Frank Tse (MS)" <ftse@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:udBLJPEVCHA.1672@tkmsftngp12...
> It should, if the UA string of the browser of the WAP phone is similar to
> the existing WML browsers that are supported by MMIT. If the UA string is
> not being recognized by the existing config file, you will need to add the
> corresponding mapping in the config file as discussed below.
>
> --
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
> http://www.asp.n...
>
>
> "wl" <sorry@no-spam.be> wrote in message
> news:Oma6YGUSCHA.3896@tkmsftngp11...
> > Frank,
> >
> > For WAP enabled phones, would MMIT return WML pages then ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wim
> >
> >
> > "Frank Tse (MS)" <ftse@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:OX10e7TSCHA.2400@tkmsftngp13...
> > > This is good question.
> > >
> > > In general when there is a new device coming to the market. Usually
> there
> > > could be one of 2 things to happen.
> > >
> > > If the new device is similar to some of the existing supported
devices,
> it
> > > might just work right away. In this case, MMIT can simply return the
> > markup
> > > which can be recognized by the device. Or you might just need to add
a
> > new
> > > capabilities section for such device in the configuration file, so the
> > > existing device adapter can render accordingly based on the new
> > capabilities
> > > for this new device.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, if the device is rendering quite differently, or
even
> > > support a completely new markup language than the existing ones, you
can
> > > still support it by providing a new set of adapters, and the new
> adapters
> > > can render the markup accordingly for the new device. In this case,
> since
> > > you are introducing new adapters, you will also need to provide the
> > mapping
> > > between the controls and the new adapters in the configuration file.
> > >
> > > One note is that there will be continuous releases of Device Updates
for
> > > MMIT to incrementally support more devices. For more information you
> can
> > > take a look at the download info at the end of the page
> > > http://w.../download.aspx?...
> > >
> > > Frank
> > > http://w...
> > > "This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > rights."
> > >
> > > "wl" <sorry@nospam.be> wrote in message
> > news:uCQ7EnPRCHA.1644@tkmsftngp08...
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > The list of supported devices for MMIT is impressed, yet I know of
> some
> > > WAP
> > > > phones that do not appear in the list of devices (like the new
> > Ericssons).
> > > >
> > > > Would this mean that MMIT possibily will not work on these devices
or
> > will
> > > > MMIT return standard WML pages in these cases ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > >
> > > > Wim
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Frank Tse [MS]

10/30/2002 6:55:00 PM

You can add the configuration for the new device manually in machine.config.
First you need to capture the UA stirng of the new device, then examine the
string and come up with a matching condition, similar to other examples in
browserCaps section of the machine.config file. Then you can specify
corresponding capabilities to the new config section as needed. Let me know
if I can help further.

--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
http://www.asp.n...

"Curt Fluegel" <curt@midifarm.com> wrote in message
news:OeJivOUcCHA.1852@tkmsftngp10...
> I noticed for the new Motorola C332 it doesn't work at all. There are no
> listings for the MB Motorola Browser (other Motorola phones had used the
> phone.com browser).
>
> Anyone know how to "hack this in"? A tool to add new phone browsers would
be
> cool. The Browser Caps idea failed in ASP due to not keeping up, I wonder
if
> this will be better?
>
> Curt
>
> "Frank Tse (MS)" <ftse@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:udBLJPEVCHA.1672@tkmsftngp12...
> > It should, if the UA string of the browser of the WAP phone is similar
to
> > the existing WML browsers that are supported by MMIT. If the UA string
is
> > not being recognized by the existing config file, you will need to add
the
> > corresponding mapping in the config file as discussed below.
> >
> > --
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> > http://www.asp.n...
> >
> >
> > "wl" <sorry@no-spam.be> wrote in message
> > news:Oma6YGUSCHA.3896@tkmsftngp11...
> > > Frank,
> > >
> > > For WAP enabled phones, would MMIT return WML pages then ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wim
> > >
> > >
> > > "Frank Tse (MS)" <ftse@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OX10e7TSCHA.2400@tkmsftngp13...
> > > > This is good question.
> > > >
> > > > In general when there is a new device coming to the market. Usually
> > there
> > > > could be one of 2 things to happen.
> > > >
> > > > If the new device is similar to some of the existing supported
> devices,
> > it
> > > > might just work right away. In this case, MMIT can simply return
the
> > > markup
> > > > which can be recognized by the device. Or you might just need to
add
> a
> > > new
> > > > capabilities section for such device in the configuration file, so
the
> > > > existing device adapter can render accordingly based on the new
> > > capabilities
> > > > for this new device.
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand, if the device is rendering quite differently, or
> even
> > > > support a completely new markup language than the existing ones, you
> can
> > > > still support it by providing a new set of adapters, and the new
> > adapters
> > > > can render the markup accordingly for the new device. In this case,
> > since
> > > > you are introducing new adapters, you will also need to provide the
> > > mapping
> > > > between the controls and the new adapters in the configuration file.
> > > >
> > > > One note is that there will be continuous releases of Device Updates
> for
> > > > MMIT to incrementally support more devices. For more information
you
> > can
> > > > take a look at the download info at the end of the page
> > > > http://w.../download.aspx?...
> > > >
> > > > Frank
> > > > http://w...
> > > > "This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > > rights."
> > > >
> > > > "wl" <sorry@nospam.be> wrote in message
> > > news:uCQ7EnPRCHA.1644@tkmsftngp08...
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > The list of supported devices for MMIT is impressed, yet I know of
> > some
> > > > WAP
> > > > > phones that do not appear in the list of devices (like the new
> > > Ericssons).
> > > > >
> > > > > Would this mean that MMIT possibily will not work on these devices
> or
> > > will
> > > > > MMIT return standard WML pages in these cases ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > >
> > > > > Wim
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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