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[OFF] New Smalltalk Release

steven_todd_harris

12/16/2004 2:18:00 AM

I know this is a bit off topic but because ruby and smalltalk are so
close I figured
I'd pass it a long for those interested. Please no flames

Ambrai Smalltalk 1.0.5 Beta2 is now available for download.

Summary of changes:

1. IDE improvements
- Syntax highlighting
- Syntax-based keyboard and mouse selection
- Splitter panes
- Text pane find and replace
- Keyboard navigation

2. Command-line
- Can run /usr/bin/smalltalk from the Terminal
- Can access command-line arguments
- Can access environment variables
- Can input and output to and from the command-line
- Can invoke other command-line programs
- Can pipe data to and from other command-line programs

3. Unicode character support
- Unicode characters can be used in the source code.
Comments, string,
symbol, and character literals may contain international characters.
Method selectors must still use traditional unaccented Latin
characters.
- Unicode character escape sequences may be used in string
and symbol
literals.
- All GUI components may contain international characters.
- UTF8 and UTF16 text encodings are supported.

4. Object finalization

5. Objective-C interface

6. Database interface

7. Cryptographic framework

8. Graphics framework

9. Weak collection improvements

10. Squeak file compatibility
- Can file-in Ambrai chunk format into Squeak.
- Can file-in Squeak chunk format into Ambrai (assignment
_ must be
manually changed to :=).

Enjoy,

Dorin Sandu and Mark Suska
Ambrai Smalltalk Development
http://www....
7 Answers

Shashank Date

12/16/2004 3:30:00 AM

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steven_todd_harris@yahoo.com wrote:
> I know this is a bit off topic but because ruby and smalltalk are so
> close I figured
> I'd pass it a long for those interested. Please no flames
>
> Ambrai Smalltalk 1.0.5 Beta2 is now available for download.

Is there any plan of porting it on Linux/Windows ?

-- shanko

gabriele renzi

12/16/2004 7:10:00 AM

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Shashank Date ha scritto:
> steven_todd_harris@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> I know this is a bit off topic but because ruby and smalltalk are so
>> close I figured
>> I'd pass it a long for those interested. Please no flames
>>
>> Ambrai Smalltalk 1.0.5 Beta2 is now available for download.
>
>
> Is there any plan of porting it on Linux/Windows ?
>

I think the point of ambrai ST is to be "The SmallTalk For OSX".
VisualWorks, Squeak, and other vendor do provide linux compatibility,
anyway.

Lyle Johnson

12/16/2004 4:08:00 PM

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I can see that it's in beta right now, and the download is free, but
does anyone know if this is ultimately intended for a (non-free)
commercial release? That wasn't clear to me from the web site.

Avi Bryant

12/17/2004 12:56:00 PM

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gabriele renzi wrote:

> I think the point of ambrai ST is to be "The SmallTalk For OSX".
> VisualWorks, Squeak, and other vendor do provide linux compatibility,

> anyway.

My understanding is that they've been quite careful to keep it
portable, so that a version for Linux or Windows would "simply" be a
matter of reimplementing the UI framework. Whether or not they ever
actually do that work is another matter; the Mac OS space is certainly
a niche that needed filling, but competing on Windows or Linux would be
more difficult.

And it's "Smalltalk" not "SmallTalk". That capital T tends to be a
very good way to annoy Smalltalkers ;).

BTW, some people on this list might be amused by the following post
from comp.lang.smalltalk. It's referring to the new command-line tool
that ships with Ambrai. I thought "Smalltalk (non-ruby)" was an
interesting choice of words:

> My first Smalltalk (non-ruby) CommandLine Application
>
> 1) Create a file called test.st:
> -----
>
> #!/usr/bin/smalltalk -r
> ConsoleWriteStream default nextPutAll: 'Hello World';cr.
>
> -----
>
> 2) call chmod +x test.st
>
> 3) execute:
>
> ./test.st
>
> I've been doing smalltalk on and off for about ten years. Never wrote
> this app before (not including ruby)

Lyle Johnson

12/17/2004 3:24:00 PM

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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:08:17 -0600, Lyle Johnson <lyle.johnson@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can see that it's in beta right now, and the download is free, but
> does anyone know if this is ultimately intended for a (non-free)
> commercial release? That wasn't clear to me from the web site.

Replying to myself: Someone from Ambrai notified me that they're
planning on making a commercial release sometime in 2005 and that the
price would be $150.00 (US).

David Stevenson

4/12/2011 10:44:00 PM

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Mark Brader wrote
>Steve Willner:
>> Funny coincidence: I don't remember anything like this happening to me
>> before, but in a 7-board Swiss match yesterday we had 0-0. It was a
>> good result for us: the opponents were the best team in the room...
>
>Congratulations.
>
>> I confess the opponents won the tie-break, though, taking 110 off our
>> teammates while we could manage only 100 at our table.
>
>Why was a tie-break needed if it was a Swiss?

I think you will find it was a humorous remark .....

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msb

4/14/2011 2:23:00 AM

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Mark Brader:
>> Why was a tie-break needed if it was a Swiss?

David Stevenson:
> I think you will find it was a humorous remark .....

No, it was only intended to be. (I know because Steve answered, in email
for some reason.) I assumed this was just something I didn't know about,
which seemed more likely.
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