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*sigh* Anyone having wireless working on a linux machine?

Abraham Vionas

12/3/2004 8:32:00 PM

I've tried something like eight different distributions and the best I've
had yet was with Suse 9.1.and even then it only correctly detected my
builtin wireless, for some reason it didn't correctly configure it. I'm
close to giving up on Linux again for another year or two, but I thought I'd
ask and see if anyone else has successfully overcome this challenge already
and what kind of advice they'd be willing to provide. The problem seems to
be that regardless what distro I use I'll have to do some manual settings,
and since I'm a noob the best distro would be the one with the least amount
of learning curve. I know some of you are BSD fans so I tried FreeBSD but
couldn't get it to even install. : -(



Regards, Abe
10 Answers

Carl Youngblood

12/3/2004 8:35:00 PM

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Abraham Vionas wrote:

>I've tried something like eight different distributions and the best I've
>had yet was with Suse 9.1.and even then it only correctly detected my
>builtin wireless, for some reason it didn't correctly configure it. I'm
>close to giving up on Linux again for another year or two, but I thought I'd
>ask and see if anyone else has successfully overcome this challenge already
>and what kind of advice they'd be willing to provide. The problem seems to
>be that regardless what distro I use I'll have to do some manual settings,
>and since I'm a noob the best distro would be the one with the least amount
>of learning curve. I know some of you are BSD fans so I tried FreeBSD but
>couldn't get it to even install. : -(
>
Forgive me, but what does this have to do with Ruby? Did you mean to
post this to a linux users group or something?

Abraham Vionas

12/3/2004 9:04:00 PM

0

Whoops, sorry, I forgot to mention that a lot of the reason I'm
investigating Linux is because being on Windows has been such a complicating
factor in my drive to learn and use Ruby. I just thought I'd pose my
question to the community at large. Sorry I forgot to tag it with the Off
Topic.

Regards, Abe

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Youngblood [mailto:carlwork@ycs.biz]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:35 PM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: *sigh* Anyone having wireless working on a linux machine?

Abraham Vionas wrote:

>I've tried something like eight different distributions and the best I've
>had yet was with Suse 9.1.and even then it only correctly detected my
>builtin wireless, for some reason it didn't correctly configure it. I'm
>close to giving up on Linux again for another year or two, but I thought
I'd
>ask and see if anyone else has successfully overcome this challenge already
>and what kind of advice they'd be willing to provide. The problem seems to
>be that regardless what distro I use I'll have to do some manual settings,
>and since I'm a noob the best distro would be the one with the least amount
>of learning curve. I know some of you are BSD fans so I tried FreeBSD but
>couldn't get it to even install. : -(
>
Forgive me, but what does this have to do with Ruby? Did you mean to
post this to a linux users group or something?

Michael DeHaan

12/3/2004 9:36:00 PM

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On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 06:03:37 +0900, Abraham Vionas
<abe_ml@bozemantechmedic.com> wrote:
> Whoops, sorry, I forgot to mention that a lot of the reason I'm
> investigating Linux is because being on Windows has been such a complicating
> factor in my drive to learn and use Ruby. I just thought I'd pose my
> question to the community at large. Sorry I forgot to tag it with the Off
> Topic.
>
> Regards, Abe
>

Options:

* SSH from your Windows or Mac laptop into a non-laptop Linux box.
This works for anything non-GUI oriented, which is most of what I do
(especially when dealing with rails, you don't care).
* Just develop natively on a Powerbook or iBook. I'm doing things
with rb-opengl right now, and it works great. Most everything is
there, but bindings to certain GUI toolkits may take some effort.
* X-Forward from your Linux box to a Powerbook or Windows machine
using an X-Windows emulator.
* VNC

--Michael

Hans Fugal

12/3/2004 10:42:00 PM

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They're right, it's off-topic. But there's likely a local linux user's
group in your area that would be more than happy to help you out. If
configuring your wireless card is the only issue, then you're almost
there and I wouldn't give up quite yet.

Abraham Vionas wrote:
> I've tried something like eight different distributions and the best I've
> had yet was with Suse 9.1.and even then it only correctly detected my
> builtin wireless, for some reason it didn't correctly configure it. I'm
> close to giving up on Linux again for another year or two, but I thought I'd
> ask and see if anyone else has successfully overcome this challenge already
> and what kind of advice they'd be willing to provide. The problem seems to
> be that regardless what distro I use I'll have to do some manual settings,
> and since I'm a noob the best distro would be the one with the least amount
> of learning curve. I know some of you are BSD fans so I tried FreeBSD but
> couldn't get it to even install. : -(
>
>
>
> Regards, Abe
>
>

James Britt

12/3/2004 11:58:00 PM

0

Hans Fugal wrote:

> They're right, it's off-topic. But there's likely a local linux user's
> group in your area that would be more than happy to help you out. If
> configuring your wireless card is the only issue, then you're almost
> there and I wouldn't give up quite yet.

I had a Lucent/Orinoco WiFi card running under RH 7.x a few years ago.
Amazingly easy; I believe the chip set in the Wavelan (?) cards is well
understood. So easy I couldn't tell you how I did it, other than follow
some bundled README.

But for general PC wifi, folk have advised me to go get a WiFi bridge.
Linux just sees a network card, so no driver/lib madness.

Otherwise, you have to know that a given card uses a particular chip,
and as far as I can tell not even all cards from the same vendor are
consistent that way.

The downside is cost. Bridges are more expensive than mere cards.

Good luck. I think Linux Journal or Linux Magazine recently did an
issue on WiFi, so they may have stuff on-line.


James

Abraham Vionas

12/4/2004 2:48:00 AM

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Thanks for the encouragement - everyone. :-) I'll stick with it another day
or so. I'd love it if I had access to a linux group, but I'm in butt-f*ck
Montana... City of Bozeman, which only has a population of 30,000 and it
seems the only groups I know of are for addicts of various sorts.


-----Original Message-----
From: Hans Fugal [mailto:hans@fugal.net]
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:43 PM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: *sigh* Anyone having wireless working on a linux machine?

They're right, it's off-topic. But there's likely a local linux user's
group in your area that would be more than happy to help you out. If
configuring your wireless card is the only issue, then you're almost
there and I wouldn't give up quite yet.

Abraham Vionas wrote:
> I've tried something like eight different distributions and the best I've
> had yet was with Suse 9.1.and even then it only correctly detected my
> builtin wireless, for some reason it didn't correctly configure it. I'm
> close to giving up on Linux again for another year or two, but I thought
I'd
> ask and see if anyone else has successfully overcome this challenge
already
> and what kind of advice they'd be willing to provide. The problem seems to
> be that regardless what distro I use I'll have to do some manual settings,
> and since I'm a noob the best distro would be the one with the least
amount
> of learning curve. I know some of you are BSD fans so I tried FreeBSD but
> couldn't get it to even install. : -(
>
>
>
> Regards, Abe
>
>




Luca Pireddu

12/4/2004 3:16:00 AM

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Michael DeHaan wrote:

> On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 06:03:37 +0900, Abraham Vionas
> <abe_ml@bozemantechmedic.com> wrote:
>> Whoops, sorry, I forgot to mention that a lot of the reason I'm
>> investigating Linux is because being on Windows has been such a
>> complicating factor in my drive to learn and use Ruby. I just thought I'd
>> pose my question to the community at large. Sorry I forgot to tag it with
>> the Off Topic.
>>
>> Regards, Abe
>>
>
> Options:
>
> * SSH from your Windows or Mac laptop into a non-laptop Linux box.
> This works for anything non-GUI oriented, which is most of what I do
> (especially when dealing with rails, you don't care).
> * Just develop natively on a Powerbook or iBook. I'm doing things
> with rb-opengl right now, and it works great. Most everything is
> there, but bindings to certain GUI toolkits may take some effort.
> * X-Forward from your Linux box to a Powerbook or Windows machine
> using an X-Windows emulator.
> * VNC
>
> --Michael

Try posting to comp.os.linux.hardware or comp.os.linux.misc. There's been
some discussion on the topic there lately. Also, try searching the newsgroup
archives groups.google.com.

If it's any help, the situation right now is that a few chipsets are supported
by native Linux drivers, while the rest are left to try using their windows
driver through a compatibility layer called ndiswrapper. A quick search on
google returns some results that may be helpful

http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&...
http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&...+howto

In any case, although there probably isn't a program that will let you
point-and-click your way through the problem, you should be able to get your
card working. You won't be the first Linux user on a wireless LAN!

Luca

Nicholas Van Weerdenburg

12/4/2004 3:38:00 AM

0

I used ndiswrappers to get my wireless lan card working (linksys) and
it worked great. It requires the windows drivers and wraps them for
use on Windows.

ndiswrappers is actually pretty straightforward to install and use.
Most news distros come with a version, but its worth getting the
latest for more support. I was mostly new to Linux, and got it going-
my only hickup was that I needed to run a dhcp client program (don't
know which) to grab the ip from my router.

Now if someone can tell me how to get my sound working :)


On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 11:47:48 +0900, Abraham Vionas
<abe_ml@bozemantechmedic.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the encouragement - everyone. :-) I'll stick with it another day
> or so. I'd love it if I had access to a linux group, but I'm in butt-f*ck
> Montana... City of Bozeman, which only has a population of 30,000 and it
> seems the only groups I know of are for addicts of various sorts.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hans Fugal [mailto:hans@fugal.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:43 PM
> To: ruby-talk ML
> Subject: Re: *sigh* Anyone having wireless working on a linux machine?
>
> They're right, it's off-topic. But there's likely a local linux user's
> group in your area that would be more than happy to help you out. If
> configuring your wireless card is the only issue, then you're almost
> there and I wouldn't give up quite yet.
>
> Abraham Vionas wrote:
> > I've tried something like eight different distributions and the best I've
> > had yet was with Suse 9.1.and even then it only correctly detected my
> > builtin wireless, for some reason it didn't correctly configure it. I'm
> > close to giving up on Linux again for another year or two, but I thought
> I'd
> > ask and see if anyone else has successfully overcome this challenge
> already
> > and what kind of advice they'd be willing to provide. The problem seems to
> > be that regardless what distro I use I'll have to do some manual settings,
> > and since I'm a noob the best distro would be the one with the least
> amount
> > of learning curve. I know some of you are BSD fans so I tried FreeBSD but
> > couldn't get it to even install. : -(
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards, Abe
> >
> >
>
>

Aredridel

12/4/2004 7:59:00 AM

0

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 11:47:48 +0900, Abraham Vionas
<abe_ml@bozemantechmedic.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the encouragement - everyone. :-) I'll stick with it another day
> or so. I'd love it if I had access to a linux group, but I'm in butt-f*ck
> Montana... City of Bozeman, which only has a population of 30,000 and it
> seems the only groups I know of are for addicts of various sorts.
>
>

Y'might be surprised. Go check out the college. There's linux geeks
around. A lover of mine lives there and is one...

Michael DeHaan

12/4/2004 1:22:00 PM

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My last response on this thread, but I thought I would add...

There are some cards for which ndiswrapper will not work with WEP, and
definitely not with WPA (certain Broadcom chips, especially).
YMMV... There are online petitions for Broadcom to release Linux
drivers for these chipsets, though they have been met with no
response.

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 12:17:40 +0900, Luca Pireddu
<ilveroluca@n.o.s.p.a.m.hotmail.com> wrote:
> Michael DeHaan wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 06:03:37 +0900, Abraham Vionas
> > <abe_ml@bozemantechmedic.com> wrote:
> >> Whoops, sorry, I forgot to mention that a lot of the reason I'm
> >> investigating Linux is because being on Windows has been such a
> >> complicating factor in my drive to learn and use Ruby. I just thought I'd
> >> pose my question to the community at large. Sorry I forgot to tag it with
> >> the Off Topic.
> >>
> >> Regards, Abe
> >>
> >
> > Options:
> >
> > * SSH from your Windows or Mac laptop into a non-laptop Linux box.
> > This works for anything non-GUI oriented, which is most of what I do
> > (especially when dealing with rails, you don't care).
> > * Just develop natively on a Powerbook or iBook. I'm doing things
> > with rb-opengl right now, and it works great. Most everything is
> > there, but bindings to certain GUI toolkits may take some effort.
> > * X-Forward from your Linux box to a Powerbook or Windows machine
> > using an X-Windows emulator.
> > * VNC
> >
> > --Michael
>
> Try posting to comp.os.linux.hardware or comp.os.linux.misc. There's been
> some discussion on the topic there lately. Also, try searching the newsgroup
> archives groups.google.com.
>
> If it's any help, the situation right now is that a few chipsets are supported
> by native Linux drivers, while the rest are left to try using their windows
> driver through a compatibility layer called ndiswrapper. A quick search on
> google returns some results that may be helpful
>
> http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&...
> http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&...+howto
>
> In any case, although there probably isn't a program that will let you
> point-and-click your way through the problem, you should be able to get your
> card working. You won't be the first Linux user on a wireless LAN!
>
> Luca
>
>