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Name Dropping

Curt Hibbs

10/27/2004 3:18:00 AM

I'm in the final leg of preparing for a presentation I'm giving on Friday to
Java programmers on Rails. At one point in the presentation, I need to
mention the names of a few well known (in our industry) people who are also
Ruby enthusiasts.

Dave Thomas is an obvious pick. Anyone familiar with XP would also recognize
Ron Jefferies. Who else can you suggest?

Thanks,
Curt
17 Answers

Jamis Buck

10/27/2004 3:40:00 AM

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Curt Hibbs wrote:
> I'm in the final leg of preparing for a presentation I'm giving on Friday to
> Java programmers on Rails. At one point in the presentation, I need to
> mention the names of a few well known (in our industry) people who are also
> Ruby enthusiasts.
>
> Dave Thomas is an obvious pick. Anyone familiar with XP would also recognize
> Ron Jefferies. Who else can you suggest?

I believe Martin Fowler is also a Rubyist.

- Jamis

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Hal E. Fulton

10/27/2004 3:49:00 AM

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Curt Hibbs wrote:
> I'm in the final leg of preparing for a presentation I'm giving on Friday to
> Java programmers on Rails. At one point in the presentation, I need to
> mention the names of a few well known (in our industry) people who are also
> Ruby enthusiasts.
>
> Dave Thomas is an obvious pick. Anyone familiar with XP would also recognize
> Ron Jefferies. Who else can you suggest?

Paul Graham has made some positive remarks about Ruby at least.

Along with Ron, there's also Chet. I feel like I'm forgetting someone.

Have there been comments about it from Martin Fowler? I seem to remember
that, but can't confirm.


Hal

Yukihiro Matsumoto

10/27/2004 5:09:00 AM

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Hi,

In message "Re: Name Dropping"
on Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:49:00 +0900, Hal Fulton <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> writes:

|Paul Graham has made some positive remarks about Ruby at least.

We got positive comments from Paul Graham, Kent Beck, Ward Cunningham,
Doug Lea, Bjarn Stroustrap, Brad Cox, Bruce Perens and others. But
I'm not sure who is really using Ruby.

|Have there been comments about it from Martin Fowler? I seem to remember
|that, but can't confirm.

I'm pretty sure he's using it. He have mentioned Ruby a lot in his
Blog, called Bliki.

matz.

James Britt

10/27/2004 6:01:00 AM

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Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

>
> I'm pretty sure he's using it. He have mentioned Ruby a lot in his
> Blog, called Bliki.

Written in Ruby (the story behind that is in the bliki somewhere).

James

vruz

10/27/2004 6:01:00 AM

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> Have there been comments about it from Martin Fowler? I seem to remember
> that, but can't confirm.

Martin Fowler using Ruby:

http://www.martinfowler.com/bliki/MovingAwayFro...

http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/simpl...

http://www.martinfowler.com/bliki/Clo...

http://www.martinfowler.com/bliki/LanguageForLearningOb...

(you will get a lot more google hits for: site:martinfowler.com ruby)


--
--- vruz

Bill Kelly

10/27/2004 7:02:00 AM

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From: "James Britt" <jamesUNDERBARb@neurogami.com>
> Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm pretty sure he's using it. He have mentioned Ruby a lot in his
> > Blog, called Bliki.
>
> Written in Ruby (the story behind that is in the bliki somewhere).


Since both Martin Fowler and Ron Jeffries were mentioned in
this thread, it reminded me of an article on the XP list
from about a year ago, with a link to a Martin Fowler article
about Bliki and Ruby:


From: "Ron Jeffries" <ronjeffries@XProgramming.com>
To: <extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [XP] "Code must be commented"
>
> On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 10:37:26 AM, Keith Ray wrote:
>
> >> If you need to use "code generation", don't use
> >> templates to do it, write a script in Python or some other readable
> >> language, and have it generate the code.
> >>
> >> (Now that last point gives me an evil idea: replace or extend the C
> >> preprocessor with in-line Python or Ruby scripts. Maybe not.)
>
> > The evil idea is partly inspired by this:
> > <http://martinfowler.com/bliki/MovingAwayFromXsl...
>
> Yes, I had a chat with Martin about this the other day. I'm kind of ticked
> off about it all, because he was the main reason I got into XSLT. ;->
>
> I've always mixed Ruby and XSLT on my site, and then I've been doing a
> little with C# so thought I might go that way. Martin's experience is
> pushing me back toward Ruby ... I guess I'll have to upgrade to the latest!
>
> Ron Jeffries
> www.XProgramming.com
> Do we learn more through cynicism, or through some other mental posture?



Regards,

Bill

Eivind Eklund

10/27/2004 10:49:00 AM

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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:18:20 +0900, Curt Hibbs <curt@hibbs.com> wrote:
> I'm in the final leg of preparing for a presentation I'm giving on Friday to
> Java programmers on Rails. At one point in the presentation, I need to
> mention the names of a few well known (in our industry) people who are also
> Ruby enthusiasts.
>
> Dave Thomas is an obvious pick. Anyone familiar with XP would also recognize
> Ron Jefferies. Who else can you suggest?

Alistair Cockburn. See http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?Ru... for
his comments about Ruby.

Eivind.
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Jim Weirich

10/27/2004 11:49:00 AM

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On Tuesday 26 October 2004 11:18 pm, Curt Hibbs wrote:
> I'm in the final leg of preparing for a presentation I'm giving on Friday
> to Java programmers on Rails. At one point in the presentation, I need to
> mention the names of a few well known (in our industry) people who are also
> Ruby enthusiasts.

Mike Clark, author of "Pragmatic Project Automation", is a Ruby fan. You can
see some of his Ruby related blogs at:
http://www.clarkware.com/cgi/blosxom/Sof...

There are also a number of Ruby related entries at the PragmaticAutomation
site that Mike runs. (goto http://www.pragmaticauto... and search for
Ruby).

paul.rogers

10/27/2004 2:49:00 PM

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Bret Pettichord and Brian Marick ( both well known in software testing
field) are big fans

Jamis Buck

10/27/2004 3:02:00 PM

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Paul wrote:
> Bret Pettichord and Brian Marick ( both well known in software testing
> field) are big fans

And, apparently, Howard Lewis Ship is testing the waters, too. :)
(Welcome to the list, Howard! How long have you been lurking?)

- Jamis

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