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[ANN] New RCRchive is open

dblack

10/26/2004 8:24:00 PM

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David Heinemeier Hansson

10/26/2004 11:11:00 PM

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> I am very pleased to announce the opening of the new, rewritten
> RCRchive, still at http://www.rc.... The new RCRchive
> is a complete rewrite in Rails.

This is the second major Ruby community site you've moved to Rails. I'm
deeply honored, David. Please continue your excellent work. It's so
motivating and inspiring to see how fast you've adopted Rails and the
great stuff you're putting out with it.

Now I wonder if it's time for my first, probably ill-conceived, RCR. I
hate how @person.manager? ? "This is him" : "Not him" looks. It would
be endlessly prettier if you could omit the double ?, so it would just
read @person.manager? "This is him" : "Not him".
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Michael Neumann

10/26/2004 11:24:00 PM

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On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 08:10:53AM +0900, David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
> >I am very pleased to announce the opening of the new, rewritten
> >RCRchive, still at http://www.rc.... The new RCRchive
> >is a complete rewrite in Rails.
>
> This is the second major Ruby community site you've moved to Rails. I'm
> deeply honored, David. Please continue your excellent work. It's so
> motivating and inspiring to see how fast you've adopted Rails and the
> great stuff you're putting out with it.
>
> Now I wonder if it's time for my first, probably ill-conceived, RCR. I
> hate how @person.manager? ? "This is him" : "Not him" looks. It would

I think, it's easier to write:

@person.is_manager ? "This is him" : ....

or

if @person.is_manager? then "blah" else "blah" end

Regards,

Michael

T. Onoma

10/26/2004 11:52:00 PM

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Hi David,
And I was just getting used to the old site ;) Just kidding, this is wonderful
news! Glad to see RCRchive improving. And you know me ;) I jumped right over
to check it out.

A quick couple of "spots":

* The voting drop-down and button is where I'd expect the comment submit
button to be. I almost clicked on it to submit my comment. The voting
controls should be up by the poll results, took me second to realize where
they were. Maybe you could slide the pole all the way up top beside the rcr
itself, and have the controls just underneath.

* Speaking of the voting I think the options are upside down. Favor should be
on top and opposed on bottom --me thinks.

* Comments are centered? Or pushed to the right? Well whatever it is it does
look a bit odd.

* I would like to be able to edit my comment after the fact. True wiki style
did have some advantages, this among them.

* Comments run together. They need some type of division. It's also harder to
comment to a specific comment. But maybe that's okay. But again, true wiki
style does have some advantages.

* It would also be nice to change one's vote (if one were to change one's
mind ;)

* Also it's running slow :(

* lasly, I think you mentioned this, but HTML is not being rendered. Will we
need to go back and fix up? We can still go back and fix up the RCRs, yes?

HTH.

All in all it's looking on the up and up. Great work David! Thanks.
--T.



On Tuesday 26 October 2004 04:23 pm, David A. Black wrote:
| I am very pleased to announce the opening of the new, rewritten
| RCRchive, still at http://www.rc.... The new RCRchive
| is a complete rewrite in Rails.
|
| Your old username and password should still work. Ruwiki format
| is still used for input, though the interface is less wiki-like
| than it was (you just enter your own comment; you don't edit the
| whole sequence of comments).
|
| The underlying RCR process has not changed, and as you'll see, the
| basic functionality of the new RCRchive is fairly similar to that
| of the old. But I think it will be more stable and consistent in its
| behavior.
|
| I've ported all the data over from YAML and Ruwiki files to a MySQL
| database. Everything should be there, though the existing comments
| for any given RCR do not have their authors' names preserved (they
| were split out from wiki text). However, this should not matter much,
| as they tended to be explicity signed (it was a wiki) or not (it was
| a wiki :-) In fact, I've retained a bit of the wiki "look": comments
| are still displayed as a single block. So if you want people to know
| who wrote your comment, put your name. (Authorship is however
| recorded in the database.)
|
| I am very aware of the non-validity of much of the XHTML code on the
| site. At least some of this has to do with the inconsistency of tag
| usage in comments. If anyone has ideas for how to normalize a site
| like this automatically (including the existing data), I'll listen.
| Meanwhile I would like to hear from anyone who has accessibility
| issues with the site.
|
| I hope you enjoy the new RCRchive. Let me know if you have questions
| or spot problems.
|
| David

Yukihiro Matsumoto

10/27/2004 1:12:00 AM

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Hi,

In message "Re: [ANN] New RCRchive is open"
on Wed, 27 Oct 2004 05:23:47 +0900, "David A. Black" <dblack@wobblini.net> writes:

|I hope you enjoy the new RCRchive. Let me know if you have questions
|or spot problems.

How can I change the RCR status? For example, I have recently
accepted 'RCR#284. Let Array#index take a block', how can I move it
from "pending" to "accepted"?

matz.

dblack

10/27/2004 3:27:00 AM

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Hal E. Fulton

10/27/2004 3:43:00 AM

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David Heinemeier Hansson wrote:
> Now I wonder if it's time for my first, probably ill-conceived, RCR. I
> hate how @person.manager? ? "This is him" : "Not him" looks. It would be
> endlessly prettier if you could omit the double ?, so it would just read
> @person.manager? "This is him" : "Not him".

Prettier, yes, but problematic. A ?-method can take arguments, of
course. Have pity on a poor parser.


Hal

vruz

10/27/2004 5:44:00 AM

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> I hope you enjoy the new RCRchive. Let me know if you have questions
> or spot problems.

Great work David, having everything in a database can make a lot of
tasks much more easier for both the authors and Matz.

I had a problem though, I wanted to see the state of some comments I
posted to RCR 198.
This is the text dump of the error I'm getting, hope this helps:

ActiveRecord::RecordNotFound in Rcr#show
Showing /rcr/show.rhtml where line #29 raised Couldn't find User without an ID
26: </td></tr>
27: <% end %>
28:
29: <% if @matz or (User.find(@session['user_id']).name == 'dblack') %>
30: <h3>Matz only: accept/reject</h3>
31: <p><%= link_to "ACCEPT RCR #{@rcr.number}", :action => 'accept',
:id => @rcr.number %></p>
32: <p><%= link_to "REJECT RCR #{@rcr.number}", :action => 'reject',
:id => @rcr.number %></p>
Show template trace
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activerecord-1.0.0/lib/active_record/base.rb:245:in
`find'
(erb):29:in `render_template'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-0.9.0/lib/action_view/base.rb:191:in
`render_template'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-0.9.0/lib/action_view/base.rb:166:in
`render_file'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-0.9.0/lib/action_controller/layout.rb:136:in
`render_without_benchmark'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-0.9.0/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:22:in
`render'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-0.9.0/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:22:in
`measure'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-0.9.0/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:22:in
`render'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-0.9.0/lib/action_controller/base.rb:564:in
`perform_action_without_filters'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-0.9.0/lib/action_controller/filters.rb:236:in
`perform_action_without_benchmark'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-0.9.0/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:30:in
`perform_action_without_rescue'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-0.9.0/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:30:in
`measure'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-0.9.0/lib/action_controller/benchmarking.rb:30:in
`perform_action_without_rescue'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-0.9.0/lib/action_controller/rescue.rb:68:in
`perform_action'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-0.9.0/lib/action_controller/base.rb:254:in
`process'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionpack-0.9.0/lib/action_controller/base.rb:235:in
`process'
/usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/rails-0.8.0/lib/dispatcher.rb:35:in `dispatch'
/dispatch.cgi:7
Request
Parameters: {"id"=>"198"}
Show session dump
--- {}
Response
Headers: {"cookie"=>[], "Cache-Control"=>"no-cache"}
Show template parameters



--
--- vruz

dblack

10/27/2004 10:19:00 AM

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Simon Strandgaard

10/27/2004 4:50:00 PM

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On Tuesday 26 October 2004 22:23, David A. Black wrote:
[snip]
> I hope you enjoy the new RCRchive. Let me know if you have questions
> or spot problems.

Looks good.

On the frontpage, It would be nice if one could see who wrote the RCR.

argh.. I gotta go.. maybe I suggest some more.. when I get back.

--
Simon Strandgaard

Dave Burt

11/1/2004 12:23:00 PM

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"David A. Black" <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote...
> Dear Rubyists --
>
> I am very pleased to announce the opening of the new, rewritten
> RCRchive, still at http://www.rc.... The new RCRchive
>...
> I am very aware of the non-validity of much of the XHTML code on the
> site. At least some of this has to do with the inconsistency of tag
> usage in comments. If anyone has ideas for how to normalize a site
> like this automatically (including the existing data), I'll listen.
> Meanwhile I would like to hear from anyone who has accessibility
> issues with the site.
><snip>

Hi, David,

The main issue's closing tags. It shouldn't be hard to ensure all tags
within a given comment are closed (or just append close tags as required).
I'm just thinking building a tag stack with RegExps, I don't know of any
extra cool XML-grokking fixer-upper, though such may exist.

Here's one site-wide problem, in the footer.
<a href="http://www.rubyonrails.org&quo... on Rails</p>.
</body>
If this was in a comment and needed to be automatically fixed, </a> needs to
be inserted before </p>I'm not sure about the legality of the . after the
</p> It sucks being a pedant. Sorry about all this, I just hope it
helps.Great work with Rails etc, I'm just starting a small project with it
now.Cheers,Dave