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NYC Ruby job listing

Jim Menard

9/28/2004 3:28:00 PM

I just saw this on Craigslist:

Senior Ruby Developer
http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/sof/438...

Yay!

Jim
--
Jim Menard, jimm@io.com, http://www.io...
10 Answers

ptkwt

9/28/2004 4:57:00 PM

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In article <4159837F.5070707@io.com>, Jim Menard <jimm@io.com> wrote:
>I just saw this on Craigslist:
>
>Senior Ruby Developer
>http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/sof/438...
>
>Yay!

The cool thing about this listing is that Ruby is actually in the job title
and appears to be the primary requirement. We've listed jobs that included
Ruby as a requirement before, but not in the job title.

Phil

sera

9/28/2004 9:53:00 PM

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Another interesting thing is that this is for a financial firm, not a
web consulting firm. Finance companies aren't known for being
risk-takers when it comes to technology: They tend to like
technologies backed by big companies, and vendors with deep pockets.

Just last week, at the monthly Ruby-NYC meeting, I was pointing out
that in NYC we're a year or two behind the curve when it comes to tech
and Ruby adoption, but hey, at least somebody's getting there.

Francis

ptkwt@aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) wrote in message news:<cjc54602ivs@enews4.newsguy.com>...
> In article <4159837F.5070707@io.com>, Jim Menard <jimm@io.com> wrote:
> >I just saw this on Craigslist:
> >
> >Senior Ruby Developer
> >http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/sof/438...
> >
> >Yay!
>
> The cool thing about this listing is that Ruby is actually in the job title
> and appears to be the primary requirement. We've listed jobs that included
> Ruby as a requirement before, but not in the job title.
>
> Phil

David Ross

9/28/2004 9:57:00 PM

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Francis Hwang wrote:

>Another interesting thing is that this is for a financial firm, not a
>web consulting firm. Finance companies aren't known for being
>risk-takers when it comes to technology: They tend to like
>technologies backed by big companies, and vendors with deep pockets.
>
>Just last week, at the monthly Ruby-NYC meeting, I was pointing out
>that in NYC we're a year or two behind the curve when it comes to tech
>and Ruby adoption, but hey, at least somebody's getting there.
>
>Francis
>
>
I myself don't believe in business technology standards. If they are
hardcore java fans, I can always convince them to use any language I
want. Its just the way I speak. In the case of this interesting job,
maybe the boss is a programmer or just really curous from a friend ;)

--dross

Ben Giddings

9/28/2004 11:39:00 PM

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Francis Hwang wrote:
> Another interesting thing is that this is for a financial firm, not a
> web consulting firm. Finance companies aren't known for being
> risk-takers when it comes to technology: They tend to like
> technologies backed by big companies, and vendors with deep pockets.
>
> Just last week, at the monthly Ruby-NYC meeting, I was pointing out
> that in NYC we're a year or two behind the curve when it comes to tech
> and Ruby adoption, but hey, at least somebody's getting there.

Interesting, but you'd think that if someone is serious enough to have a
job opening with Ruby as part of the title, someone on this list would
know them, especially considering they're asking for a "Senior" Ruby
developer.

Anybody know who this is?

I'd be interested to know if they have other Rubyists working there --
I'd expect they would, wouldn't they?

Ben

ptkwt

9/29/2004 12:04:00 AM

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In article <4159F5BE.9010700@infofiend.com>,
Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com> wrote:
>Francis Hwang wrote:
>> Another interesting thing is that this is for a financial firm, not a
>> web consulting firm. Finance companies aren't known for being
>> risk-takers when it comes to technology: They tend to like
>> technologies backed by big companies, and vendors with deep pockets.
>>
>> Just last week, at the monthly Ruby-NYC meeting, I was pointing out
>> that in NYC we're a year or two behind the curve when it comes to tech
>> and Ruby adoption, but hey, at least somebody's getting there.
>
>Interesting, but you'd think that if someone is serious enough to have a
>job opening with Ruby as part of the title, someone on this list would
>know them, especially considering they're asking for a "Senior" Ruby
>developer.
>
>Anybody know who this is?
>
>I'd be interested to know if they have other Rubyists working there --
>I'd expect they would, wouldn't they?
>

I've run into rubyists out there who never posted to comp.lang.ruby or
ruby-talk (in fact in one case, I don't think they had ever subscribed or
read the list, so you couldn't even call them lurkers). There are a lot more
lurkers than posters in general and there are a lot of folks who are not
'joiners' by nature. And there are people who have apparently just
begun using Ruby in a business setting due to applications like Rails.

Just as a 'sociological' case study consider The Robot Co-op in Seattle:
( http://robo... ) Ruby seems to be playing a large
part in this start-up, but none of the names listed look familiar from ruby-talk or
comp.lang.ruby. From the posts on their site it would seem that they first
decided to use Rails which of course means they would be using Ruby. They
mention that they're learning Ruby. Apparently they were unaware of the
Seattle Ruby group.

This raises two possibilities:
1) There are people out there using (or planning to use Ruby) who are unaware
of the various Ruby resources (ruby-talk, local Ruby User's Groups)
2) Maybe Ruby is easy enough to learn that they have not had to check in to
ruby-talk or a local Ruby User's Group and/or they prefer to remain 'under the
radar'.



Phil

STEPHEN BECKER I V

9/29/2004 12:54:00 PM

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At college (East Stroudsburg University) I am taking a programming
lang course. For the course we have to present and teach the class a
lang of our choice. My teacher had all the basics ( php, Java,
FORTRAN,snowbal,cobalt....) and ask if anyone had a different lang. I
found ruby because i had to install it to run some widgets. I knew
nothing of ruby, but now i am going to teach it to my class. Another
30 some people exposed to ruby. I have heard some where before that
Ruby is becoming mainstream in Japan, i was wondering if this is true?
And does anyone have a clue why after 10 years, it has not become very
popular?
Stephen Becker


On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:39:20 +0900, Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote:
> In article <4159F5BE.9010700@infofiend.com>,
>
>
> Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com> wrote:
> >Francis Hwang wrote:
> >> Another interesting thing is that this is for a financial firm, not a
> >> web consulting firm. Finance companies aren't known for being
> >> risk-takers when it comes to technology: They tend to like
> >> technologies backed by big companies, and vendors with deep pockets.
> >>
> >> Just last week, at the monthly Ruby-NYC meeting, I was pointing out
> >> that in NYC we're a year or two behind the curve when it comes to tech
> >> and Ruby adoption, but hey, at least somebody's getting there.
> >
> >Interesting, but you'd think that if someone is serious enough to have a
> >job opening with Ruby as part of the title, someone on this list would
> >know them, especially considering they're asking for a "Senior" Ruby
> >developer.
> >
> >Anybody know who this is?
> >
> >I'd be interested to know if they have other Rubyists working there --
> >I'd expect they would, wouldn't they?
> >
>
> I've run into rubyists out there who never posted to comp.lang.ruby or
> ruby-talk (in fact in one case, I don't think they had ever subscribed or
> read the list, so you couldn't even call them lurkers). There are a lot more
> lurkers than posters in general and there are a lot of folks who are not
> 'joiners' by nature. And there are people who have apparently just
> begun using Ruby in a business setting due to applications like Rails.
>
> Just as a 'sociological' case study consider The Robot Co-op in Seattle:
> ( http://robo... ) Ruby seems to be playing a large
> part in this start-up, but none of the names listed look familiar from ruby-talk or
> comp.lang.ruby. From the posts on their site it would seem that they first
> decided to use Rails which of course means they would be using Ruby. They
> mention that they're learning Ruby. Apparently they were unaware of the
> Seattle Ruby group.
>
> This raises two possibilities:
> 1) There are people out there using (or planning to use Ruby) who are unaware
> of the various Ruby resources (ruby-talk, local Ruby User's Groups)
> 2) Maybe Ruby is easy enough to learn that they have not had to check in to
> ruby-talk or a local Ruby User's Group and/or they prefer to remain 'under the
> radar'.
>
>
> Phil
>
>

Brian McCallister

9/29/2004 12:58:00 PM

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The adoption rate for most languages is about ten years (without huge
marketing campaigns and millions of dollars backing them up (Java,
C#)). You will notice it is starting to get a lot of prominent notice
in last year or two, for instance.

The current adoption rate is not atypical, and it is already the
scripting language of the discriminating hacker ;-) Back door tech as
Tim Bray says.

-Brian

On Sep 29, 2004, at 8:53 AM, STEPHEN BECKER I V wrote:

> At college (East Stroudsburg University) I am taking a programming
> lang course. For the course we have to present and teach the class a
> lang of our choice. My teacher had all the basics ( php, Java,
> FORTRAN,snowbal,cobalt....) and ask if anyone had a different lang. I
> found ruby because i had to install it to run some widgets. I knew
> nothing of ruby, but now i am going to teach it to my class. Another
> 30 some people exposed to ruby. I have heard some where before that
> Ruby is becoming mainstream in Japan, i was wondering if this is true?
> And does anyone have a clue why after 10 years, it has not become very
> popular?
> Stephen Becker
>
>
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:39:20 +0900, Phil Tomson <ptkwt@aracnet.com>
> wrote:
>> In article <4159F5BE.9010700@infofiend.com>,
>>
>>
>> Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com> wrote:
>>> Francis Hwang wrote:
>>>> Another interesting thing is that this is for a financial firm, not
>>>> a
>>>> web consulting firm. Finance companies aren't known for being
>>>> risk-takers when it comes to technology: They tend to like
>>>> technologies backed by big companies, and vendors with deep pockets.
>>>>
>>>> Just last week, at the monthly Ruby-NYC meeting, I was pointing out
>>>> that in NYC we're a year or two behind the curve when it comes to
>>>> tech
>>>> and Ruby adoption, but hey, at least somebody's getting there.
>>>
>>> Interesting, but you'd think that if someone is serious enough to
>>> have a
>>> job opening with Ruby as part of the title, someone on this list
>>> would
>>> know them, especially considering they're asking for a "Senior" Ruby
>>> developer.
>>>
>>> Anybody know who this is?
>>>
>>> I'd be interested to know if they have other Rubyists working there
>>> --
>>> I'd expect they would, wouldn't they?
>>>
>>
>> I've run into rubyists out there who never posted to comp.lang.ruby or
>> ruby-talk (in fact in one case, I don't think they had ever
>> subscribed or
>> read the list, so you couldn't even call them lurkers). There are a
>> lot more
>> lurkers than posters in general and there are a lot of folks who are
>> not
>> 'joiners' by nature. And there are people who have apparently just
>> begun using Ruby in a business setting due to applications like Rails.
>>
>> Just as a 'sociological' case study consider The Robot Co-op in
>> Seattle:
>> ( http://robo... ) Ruby seems to be playing a large
>> part in this start-up, but none of the names listed look familiar
>> from ruby-talk or
>> comp.lang.ruby. From the posts on their site it would seem that they
>> first
>> decided to use Rails which of course means they would be using Ruby.
>> They
>> mention that they're learning Ruby. Apparently they were unaware of
>> the
>> Seattle Ruby group.
>>
>> This raises two possibilities:
>> 1) There are people out there using (or planning to use Ruby) who are
>> unaware
>> of the various Ruby resources (ruby-talk, local Ruby User's Groups)
>> 2) Maybe Ruby is easy enough to learn that they have not had to check
>> in to
>> ruby-talk or a local Ruby User's Group and/or they prefer to remain
>> 'under the
>> radar'.
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>
>

sera

9/29/2004 5:47:00 PM

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Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com> wrote in message news:<4159F5BE.9010700@infofiend.com>...
> Interesting, but you'd think that if someone is serious enough to have a
> job opening with Ruby as part of the title, someone on this list would
> know them, especially considering they're asking for a "Senior" Ruby
> developer.

Though you never know. At small companies, "Senior" sometimes means
you're the only one. Heck, at the non-profit I work at, they call me a
"Director". I direct myself, and one freelancer when we can afford
him.

A small size would also help explain why a finance company is taking a
risk like this ... when you're smaller you have to play to win.

> Anybody know who this is?
>
> I'd be interested to know if they have other Rubyists working there --
> I'd expect they would, wouldn't they?

Looks like it's the poster, Milestone Capital Management. You could
always email them and ask.

F.

khaines

9/29/2004 6:28:00 PM

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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:50:09 +0900, Francis Hwang wrote

> > Interesting, but you'd think that if someone is serious enough to have a
> > job opening with Ruby as part of the title, someone on this list would
> > know them, especially considering they're asking for a "Senior" Ruby
> > developer.
>
> Though you never know. At small companies, "Senior" sometimes means
> you're the only one. Heck, at the non-profit I work at, they call me
> a "Director". I direct myself, and one freelancer when we can afford
> him.
>
> A small size would also help explain why a finance company is taking
> a risk like this ... when you're smaller you have to play to win.

The lion's share of work that I do, I do for mutual funds and a large US
bank, and I do almost all of it with Ruby. The choice of programming
language has never been any sort of impediment to getting the jobs. As long
as the results are correct and the product does everything that it is
supposed to do, for the cost that they want to pay, all they have wanted to
know is what language is going to be used, for their own internal
information.


Kirk Haines

Andres Salomon

9/29/2004 7:12:00 PM

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On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 02:50 +0900, Francis Hwang wrote:
> Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@infofiend.com> wrote in message news:<4159F5BE.9010700@infofiend.com>...
> > Anybody know who this is?
> >
> > I'd be interested to know if they have other Rubyists working there --
> > I'd expect they would, wouldn't they?
>
> Looks like it's the poster, Milestone Capital Management. You could
> always email them and ask.
>
> F.
>

Heh, I didn't realize it was milecap until you pointed that out. We host
(or hosted; I don't keep up on these things) some of their servers. I
think I know who probably pushed ruby usage within the company; google tells
me that he does some work on freebsd ruby stuff within ports, as well.


--
Andres Salomon <dilinger@voxel.net>