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Outdated page(s) on ruby-lang.org?

Hal E. Fulton

10/19/2003 3:30:00 AM

A guy I (barely) know just tried to download Ruby
and found this page:

http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/dow...

It claims that 1.6.8 is stable.

Not sure how he got to that page.

Maybe someone should do some fixing up?

Just FYI.

Cheers,
Hal
9 Answers

Josef 'Jupp' Schugt

10/20/2003 5:01:00 PM

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Hi!

* Hal Fulton; 2003-10-19, 19:32 UTC:
> http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/dow...
>
> It claims that 1.6.8 is stable.

1.8 may be a newer stable version but the claim is right.

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James Britt

10/20/2003 6:45:00 PM

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Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT wrote:
> Hi!
>
> * Hal Fulton; 2003-10-19, 19:32 UTC:
>
>> http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/dow...
>>
>>It claims that 1.6.8 is stable.
>
>
> 1.8 may be a newer stable version but the claim is right.

The claim is not that 1.6.8 is *a* stable version, but *the* stable
version, and that 1.8.0 is only in preview.

The link for 1.8 goes to ruby-1.8.0-preview1.tar.gz, not
ruby-1.8.0.tar.gz. You have to follow the mirror links to see that
there is a later version of 1.8.0


James

matz

10/20/2003 11:15:00 PM

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Hi,

In message "Re: Outdated page(s) on ruby-lang.org?"
on 03/10/21, James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@seemyemail.com> writes:

|> 1.8 may be a newer stable version but the claim is right.
|
|The claim is not that 1.6.8 is *a* stable version, but *the* stable
|version, and that 1.8.0 is only in preview.
|
|The link for 1.8 goes to ruby-1.8.0-preview1.tar.gz, not
|ruby-1.8.0.tar.gz. You have to follow the mirror links to see that
|there is a later version of 1.8.0

Since all www-admins are Japanese, English pages tend to be slow to be
updated. We are in the process of assigning English speaking editors.

matz.

Sean O'Dell

10/20/2003 11:21:00 PM

0

On Monday 20 October 2003 04:14 pm, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In message "Re: Outdated page(s) on ruby-lang.org?"
>
> on 03/10/21, James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@seemyemail.com> writes:
> |> 1.8 may be a newer stable version but the claim is right.
> |
> |The claim is not that 1.6.8 is *a* stable version, but *the* stable
> |version, and that 1.8.0 is only in preview.
> |
> |The link for 1.8 goes to ruby-1.8.0-preview1.tar.gz, not
> |ruby-1.8.0.tar.gz. You have to follow the mirror links to see that
> |there is a later version of 1.8.0
>
> Since all www-admins are Japanese, English pages tend to be slow to be
> updated. We are in the process of assigning English speaking editors.

Matz, how "alive" is Ruby there in Japan? I have always felt that it's
perfectly fine if Ruby is slow to gain ground here, so long as it's growing
very healthy *somewhere* in the world. How is it faring over there?

Sean O'Dell

matz

10/21/2003 3:47:00 AM

0

Hi,

In message "Re: Outdated page(s) on ruby-lang.org?"
on 03/10/21, "Sean O'Dell" <sean@celsoft.com> writes:

|Matz, how "alive" is Ruby there in Japan? I have always felt that it's
|perfectly fine if Ruby is slow to gain ground here, so long as it's growing
|very healthy *somewhere* in the world. How is it faring over there?

How do I measure "alive"-ness?

I see many books related with Ruby here in Japan (36? 38? I'm not
sure). I admit there are more books about Java and PHP, but still we
outnumber Python books. We see a lot of web servers running Ruby
application, especially tDiary, which is one of Ruby's killer
applications.

I have been asked for presentation here and there all over the world.
Even too many times so that often I had to say no. I think Ruby is
"alive" pretty well.

Regarding "success", I am paid for Ruby development itself, where
Larry and Guide are not. This is most important for me.

matz.

Sean O'Dell

10/21/2003 5:32:00 AM

0

On Monday 20 October 2003 08:47 pm, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In message "Re: Outdated page(s) on ruby-lang.org?"
>
> on 03/10/21, "Sean O'Dell" <sean@celsoft.com> writes:
> |Matz, how "alive" is Ruby there in Japan? I have always felt that it's
> |perfectly fine if Ruby is slow to gain ground here, so long as it's
> | growing very healthy *somewhere* in the world. How is it faring over
> | there?
>
> How do I measure "alive"-ness?
>
> I see many books related with Ruby here in Japan (36? 38? I'm not
> sure). I admit there are more books about Java and PHP, but still we
> outnumber Python books. We see a lot of web servers running Ruby
> application, especially tDiary, which is one of Ruby's killer
> applications.
>
> I have been asked for presentation here and there all over the world.
> Even too many times so that often I had to say no. I think Ruby is
> "alive" pretty well.
>
> Regarding "success", I am paid for Ruby development itself, where
> Larry and Guide are not. This is most important for me.

That's really encouraging! Thanks for that insight.

There will be more applications forthcoming, I'm sure. Even with the huge
commercial push for Python here in the U.S., I see, without fail, Ruby is a
honeypot for developers. I think, even if it takes 20 years, Ruby will
eventually come out on top.

Sean O'Dell

mailij31s-removej

10/22/2003 9:32:00 PM

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(1) Hal,

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:30 UTC, Hal Fulton wrote:
| http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/dow...
|
| It claims that 1.6.8 is stable.

* Current correct Ruby download page is:

http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/200...

(The pointed page is obsolete)

so please check your bookmark.

# May we shrink the obsolete pages?


(2) Gavin,

* What about

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:08 UTC, Gavin Sinclair wrote:

: On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 8:00:33 PM, Gavin wrote:
:
: > Can it be linked from www.ruby-lang.org/en somewhere?
:
: > For example, in ..., where it says
:
: where "..." = "http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/20020104....
:
: > ruby-dev, the developers' mailing list.
:
: > It could say this instead:
:
: > ruby-dev, the developers' mailing list (summarized in English
: > weekly; see _here_) [link to above webpage]

it now? ^\__ slightly modified though.
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Gavin Sinclair

10/22/2003 10:19:00 PM

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On Thursday, October 23, 2003, 7:31:53 AM, SugHimsi==SUGIHARA wrote:

> (1) Hal,

> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:30 UTC, Hal Fulton wrote:
> | http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/dow...
> |
> | It claims that 1.6.8 is stable.

> * Current correct Ruby download page is:

> http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/200...

> (The pointed page is obsolete)

> so please check your bookmark.

> # May we shrink the obsolete pages?

Yes, good idea.


> (2) Gavin,

> * What about [...]
> ("http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/20020104....) [...]
> it now? ^\__ slightly modified though.

Excellent. Typo on next line, though ("uby-ext").

Gavin

Josef 'Jupp' Schugt

10/23/2003 10:39:00 PM

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* Gavin Sinclair; Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:19:12 +0900

>> # May we shrink the obsolete pages?
>
> Yes, good idea.

What about simply adding 'Information obsoleted by' + reference to
new page as it is done with RFCs and the like?

Josef 'Jupp' Schugt