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3 Answers

Cor Ligthert [MVP]

4/23/2008 3:53:00 AM

0

John,

From your description I was not sure if you had to update datarows or only
to insert.
As you state it now probably a simple merge can do the job (as long as you
use the same tablenames and the same columnnames).

Why avoid simple tools for simple jobs.

Like you write it, it seems to me that you want to use simple tools for
difficult problems and more basic tools for difficult jobs, as I try to say
it in an anology.

It looks that you are using a stappler to build a house and a hammer with
nails to put some papers together.

Cor

"John W." <JohnW@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:21CBB04B-1050-4167-BCED-4868EE839454@microsoft.com...
>I avoided using DataAdapters since (1) the operations I needed were so
>basic,
> (2) I don't feel very comfortable with them, and (3) with the exception of
> two tables, I don't need to have the updated tables in memory--only in the
> file. (Those two tables are used to reconcile several foreign key columns
> in
> various tables.) CommandBuilder lost favor with me a long time ago when I
> found that it couldn't handle half of what I wanted it to do. (I don't
> remember the specifics, but I do remember the disappointment.) The two
> tables
> in Problem 2 should be among the simplest to handle. One of the new
> records
> is always the same, and the other varies only slightly. Two INSERT
> commands
> and I'm done, without the overhead of the DataAdapter.
>
> "Cor Ligthert[MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Johh,
>>
>> Why not simple use a DataAdapter to update as you tells that it is a
>> single
>> non related table than it should be a piece of cake.
>>
>> (You can then probably simple use the commandbuilder)
>>
>> Cor
>>
>> "John W." <JohnW@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:6A447E4E-19FE-403A-A8CE-43C22AF2904F@microsoft.com...
>> > I've seen other posts with similar problems, but no solutions. I have
>> > two
>> > hair-pulling dilemmas that have been frustrating me for months now. Is
>> > there no solution? (C#.NET, Framework 2.0, Jet OleDb 4.0)
>> >
>> > The general goal is to read one MDB file and copy relevant info into
>> > another MDB file (copied from an empty template), replacing the old
>> > file with the new file. DataAdapters are used only to read (or
>> > re-read)
>> > the data from the file into the in-memory DataTable. All data INSERTs
>> > and UPDATEs are done with OleDbCommand.ExecuteNonQuery().
>> >
>> > Problem 1: To retain the original version of the file, the process
>> > requires two rename operations. The first renames the original file.
>> > The second renames the new file to have the original file's name. Half
>> > the files I process do this OK. The other half fail on one of the
>> > renames,
>> > claiming that the file is still locked by another process. Checking
>> > the
>> > directory just prior to the rename attempt confirms that the
>> > corresponding LDB file still exists when the rename fails and doesn't
>> > exist when it succeeds. I've gone so far as to put all the data
>> > copying
>> > into a separate Main and invoking it with a Process.Start() so that the
>> > locking process has to be terminated before I attempt the rename. No
>> >dice. Aaaaargh!
>> >
>> > Problem 2: In the last-called method of the copy process, one new
>> > record
>> > is written to each of two empty tables. After that, a message is
>> > written to
>> > a log file, the method returns, and the OleDbConnection is closed. All
>> > of
>> > that occurs in about a dozen lines of code. This works almost all the
>> > time,
>> > except on one of my test files. With that file, the first inserted row
>> > appears in the output mdb file, but the second one does not! There is
>> > nothing particularly unusual about this file; other test files have
>> > identical structures. The tables involved are new tables, not present
>> > in
>> > the source data file, and every test file requires that these two rows
>> > be
>> > created. No errors are reported by the INSERTs or any other statement;
>> > it just doesn't get committed to the table. Double-Aaaaargh!!
>>

John W.

4/23/2008 1:35:00 PM

0

I accept that rebuke; your assessment may be true, but I have
left significant complexity out of this discussion because of its
tendency to hide the real problem that I am fighting. (Case in
point: the table names and column names are not the same
between the files.)

Yesterday, we "stumbled" onto evidence that convinces me my
two problems are just different manifestations of the same i
ssue: the lazy write characteristic of the JET engine. If I can turn
that off while this process runs, both problems will go away. I
can find VB examples of ways to do it, but they don't seem to have
C# counterparts in the OleDb family of classes. The
JRO.JetEngineClass.ResetCache() method is available for
refreshing the read cache, but doesn't have an equivalent for the
write cache--which would also solve my problem. Got any
suggestions on this?

"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" wrote:

> John,
>
> From your description I was not sure if you had to update datarows or only
> to insert.
> As you state it now probably a simple merge can do the job (as long as you
> use the same tablenames and the same columnnames).
>
> Why avoid simple tools for simple jobs.
>
> Like you write it, it seems to me that you want to use simple tools for
> difficult problems and more basic tools for difficult jobs, as I try to say
> it in an anology.
>
> It looks that you are using a stappler to build a house and a hammer with
> nails to put some papers together.
>
> Cor
>
> "John W." <JohnW@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> news:21CBB04B-1050-4167-BCED-4868EE839454@microsoft.com...
> >I avoided using DataAdapters since (1) the operations I needed were so
> >basic,
> > (2) I don't feel very comfortable with them, and (3) with the exception of
> > two tables, I don't need to have the updated tables in memory--only in the
> > file. (Those two tables are used to reconcile several foreign key columns
> > in
> > various tables.) CommandBuilder lost favor with me a long time ago when I
> > found that it couldn't handle half of what I wanted it to do. (I don't
> > remember the specifics, but I do remember the disappointment.) The two
> > tables
> > in Problem 2 should be among the simplest to handle. One of the new
> > records
> > is always the same, and the other varies only slightly. Two INSERT
> > commands
> > and I'm done, without the overhead of the DataAdapter.
> >

William Vaughn

4/23/2008 2:43:00 PM

0

Yes, I expect that the lazy write issue is causing these symptoms. Try
wrapping the operation in a transaction.

--
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Author, Mentor, Dad, Grandpa
Microsoft MVP
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____________________________________________________________________________________________
"John W." <JohnW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8AC09A55-EA79-43B3-A100-F37E2734F28F@microsoft.com...
>I accept that rebuke; your assessment may be true, but I have
> left significant complexity out of this discussion because of its
> tendency to hide the real problem that I am fighting. (Case in
> point: the table names and column names are not the same
> between the files.)
>
> Yesterday, we "stumbled" onto evidence that convinces me my
> two problems are just different manifestations of the same i
> ssue: the lazy write characteristic of the JET engine. If I can turn
> that off while this process runs, both problems will go away. I
> can find VB examples of ways to do it, but they don't seem to have
> C# counterparts in the OleDb family of classes. The
> JRO.JetEngineClass.ResetCache() method is available for
> refreshing the read cache, but doesn't have an equivalent for the
> write cache--which would also solve my problem. Got any
> suggestions on this?
>
> "Cor Ligthert[MVP]" wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> From your description I was not sure if you had to update datarows or
>> only
>> to insert.
>> As you state it now probably a simple merge can do the job (as long as
>> you
>> use the same tablenames and the same columnnames).
>>
>> Why avoid simple tools for simple jobs.
>>
>> Like you write it, it seems to me that you want to use simple tools for
>> difficult problems and more basic tools for difficult jobs, as I try to
>> say
>> it in an anology.
>>
>> It looks that you are using a stappler to build a house and a hammer with
>> nails to put some papers together.
>>
>> Cor
>>
>> "John W." <JohnW@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:21CBB04B-1050-4167-BCED-4868EE839454@microsoft.com...
>> >I avoided using DataAdapters since (1) the operations I needed were so
>> >basic,
>> > (2) I don't feel very comfortable with them, and (3) with the exception
>> > of
>> > two tables, I don't need to have the updated tables in memory--only in
>> > the
>> > file. (Those two tables are used to reconcile several foreign key
>> > columns
>> > in
>> > various tables.) CommandBuilder lost favor with me a long time ago
>> > when I
>> > found that it couldn't handle half of what I wanted it to do. (I don't
>> > remember the specifics, but I do remember the disappointment.) The two
>> > tables
>> > in Problem 2 should be among the simplest to handle. One of the new
>> > records
>> > is always the same, and the other varies only slightly. Two INSERT
>> > commands
>> > and I'm done, without the overhead of the DataAdapter.
>> >
>