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8 Answers

Michel Posseth [MCP]

1/27/2008 11:10:00 AM

huh ???

Stephany if you mean Spam Catcher`s remark about Access

>> Access is more or less being phased out - take a look at using SQL Server
>> CE which is potentially a better solution (more easily upgradable to full
>> SQL server in the future).

In my opinion he is right ,,, or do you see a 64 bit oledb driver ?? just
to call one hint
I had to stop using Access as db for my deployable apps for this reasson and
started to use SQL server annywhere eg everywhere ( now CE i believe )

I also do not see anny reasson to stick with Access as it only give you a
lot of pain to get it working ( Mdac and Jet refresh pack ) compared to sql
server CE wich is a XCopy deployable dll , ofcourse if you write deployable
apps ( as i did in the past to 20.000 users europe wide )

regards

Michel

"Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> schreef in bericht
news:eou$ZRLYIHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Do you know something that nobody else does?
>
>
> "Spam Catcher" <spamhoneypot@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A3214F42DBEBusenethoneypotrogers@127.0.0.1...
>> "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:O$#RJVIYIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> I have an access backend database to which I need to give a vb.net
>>> front end. I created db connection and data source in vs 2008., I then
>>> dragged the fields onto a form which created the app for me. The app
>>> works ok but my question is; is this the correct/acceptable way to
>>> cerate an app or should I be using another technique?
>>
>> Access is more or less being phased out - take a look at using SQL Server
>> CE which is potentially a better solution (more easily upgradable to full
>> SQL server in the future).
>>
>> You should also implement some sort of design pattern/framework to
>> abstract
>> your data access.
>>
>> --
>> spamhoneypot@rogers.com (Do not e-mail)
>

Spam Catcher

1/27/2008 5:59:00 PM

"Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in news:eou$ZRLYIHA.3652
@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> Do you know something that nobody else does?

Straight from Microsoft:

Access (Jet) and FoxPro (dbf)
Many applications offer integrated storage engines that are designed to
meet the specific needs of their users. Access and FoxPro, being part of
Microsoft Office, are examples of products that have integrated database
engines that work well within their context but were never fully integrated
into the Visual Studio development environment, as they weren?t considered
general purpose data storage engines.

Phased out might be too harsh of a word, but I believe Microsoft is
shifting developers from Access to the SQL Server platform. Embedded apps
will use SQL Server Compact Edition. Other application Express, Standard,
Enterprise.

Looking at SQL Server CE's feature set ... is there a reason to stick with
Access? Not only does CE provide higher performance, but also T-SQL
compatiblity, synchronization capabilities, etc, why would one use it?

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spamhoneypot@rogers.com (Do not e-mail)

Jeff Gaines

1/28/2008 8:52:00 AM

On 28/01/2008 in message <OWDlRGXYIHA.1532@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> Michel
Posseth [MCP] wrote:

>Are you sure ?? sql server anywhere is designed for a small footprint
>and has a single storage file wich van also be protected / encrypted (
>just as you can with access ) , after disconecting you should be able to
>copy the file to a backup location to

My backups run on an overnight schedule so I am not keen on
disconnecting/stopping the server and then re-starting it. It's horses for
courses. I do run MySQL on the PC for testing php but none of the data is
backed up.

--
Jeff Gaines

Spam Catcher

1/28/2008 2:45:00 PM

"Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in
news:xn0flp18w4rdv8v002@msnews.microsoft.com:

> In my case because (a) it swallows resources to run and (b) it is a
> pig to backup (in Access I can just copy the files).

You can backup SQL Server CE by just copying the files.

As for resources, the runtime is ~1.5MB - quite small. Memory usage seems
to be minimal as well.

> However, apart from that I'm sure you're right :-)

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spamhoneypot@rogers.com (Do not e-mail)

Spam Catcher

1/28/2008 2:47:00 PM

Olaf Rabbachin <Olaf_NoSpam@IntuiDev.com> wrote in news:emiglFaYIHA.5208
@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

> Would it be possible to use the System.Data.Sql* namespaces to connect to
> both a SQLS2000 and SQLSC3.5? Anybody done this before ..?

They use difference ADO.NET drivers to connect.

Nevertheless you could use a data abstraction layer to handle your
requirements - a framework such as LLBLGen Pro would do what you need.

As for synching SQL Server CE -> SQL Server, yes I believe that is provided
out of the box.

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spamhoneypot@rogers.com (Do not e-mail)

Jeff Gaines

1/28/2008 2:54:00 PM

On 28/01/2008 in message <Xns9A3363258B6F2usenethoneypotrogers@127.0.0.1>
Spam Catcher wrote:

>You can backup SQL Server CE by just copying the files.

While the server is running?

--
Jeff Gaines

John

1/29/2008 7:43:00 AM

Not being clued in on SQL Server, what is the different between SQL Server
CE and SQL Server Express in that when should one be used instead of the
other?

Thanks

Regards

"Michel Posseth [MCP]" <MSDN@posseth.com> wrote in message
news:Ogw%23tHkYIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> While the server is running?
>
> There is no reall server running with SQL CE , i recomend you to read
> some documentation about the subject
> there is a SQL CE dll loaded , just as with Access the jet engines are
> loaded
>
> You can just as with Access copy the DB file and also with Access you
> cannot just copy the file while the file is beeing used ( you can if you
> open the DB "with add share deny none" flag in the connection string
> however after copying it might be corrupted )
>
>
> if you really want some great information about the subject i can recomend
> you Hitchhiker's Guide to SQL Server 2005 Compact Edition you can find it
> here http://www....
>
> Actually it was Bill Vaughn who told me i could ditch Access in favor of
> SQL server Everywhere in one of these newsgroups, after i started a
> discussion about features i missed in the SQL engine for deployability
> ( protection of my valuable data as my company is the owner of the
> displayed data , no need of SQL server client installation , small memory
> foootprint etc etc etc ) all these are solved with SQL server
> Everywhere and as a benefit it gives you scalability
>
> HTH
>
> Michel Posseth
>
> "Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> schreef in bericht
> news:xn0flq6yv5uvscn007@msnews.microsoft.com...
>> On 28/01/2008 in message <Xns9A3363258B6F2usenethoneypotrogers@127.0.0.1>
>> Spam Catcher wrote:
>>
>>>You can backup SQL Server CE by just copying the files.
>>
>> While the server is running?
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Gaines
>
>

Terry

1/29/2008 1:36:00 PM

try this link:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/A/4/7/A47B7B0E-976D-4F49-B15D-F02ADE638EBE/Compact_Express_Comp...

--
Terry

"John" wrote:

> Not being clued in on SQL Server, what is the different between SQL Server
> CE and SQL Server Express in that when should one be used instead of the
> other?
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
>
> "Michel Posseth [MCP]" <MSDN@posseth.com> wrote in message
> news:Ogw%23tHkYIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> While the server is running?
> >
> > There is no reall server running with SQL CE , i recomend you to read
> > some documentation about the subject
> > there is a SQL CE dll loaded , just as with Access the jet engines are
> > loaded
> >
> > You can just as with Access copy the DB file and also with Access you
> > cannot just copy the file while the file is beeing used ( you can if you
> > open the DB "with add share deny none" flag in the connection string
> > however after copying it might be corrupted )
> >
> >
> > if you really want some great information about the subject i can recomend
> > you Hitchhiker's Guide to SQL Server 2005 Compact Edition you can find it
> > here http://www....
> >
> > Actually it was Bill Vaughn who told me i could ditch Access in favor of
> > SQL server Everywhere in one of these newsgroups, after i started a
> > discussion about features i missed in the SQL engine for deployability
> > ( protection of my valuable data as my company is the owner of the
> > displayed data , no need of SQL server client installation , small memory
> > foootprint etc etc etc ) all these are solved with SQL server
> > Everywhere and as a benefit it gives you scalability
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Michel Posseth
> >
> > "Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> schreef in bericht
> > news:xn0flq6yv5uvscn007@msnews.microsoft.com...
> >> On 28/01/2008 in message <Xns9A3363258B6F2usenethoneypotrogers@127.0.0.1>
> >> Spam Catcher wrote:
> >>
> >>>You can backup SQL Server CE by just copying the files.
> >>
> >> While the server is running?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jeff Gaines
> >
> >
>
>
>

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松林相販売階段を上る敢闘

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