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henry.p.goodman

6/17/2014 1:19:00 PM

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On Monday, June 16, 2014 7:56:25 PM UTC+1, shel...@thevillages.net wrote:
> On 6/16/2014 2:49 PM, David Makowsky wrote:
>
> > This is regarding the three teenage boys who were kidnapped in Israel.
>
> >
>
> > I don't think terrorists should ever be negotiated with (One POSSIBLE exception would be something along the lines of someone making a credible claim that they will kill millions of people with nukes unless .., but I am not discussing that now). In fact I think there should be a worldwide law demanding an immediate death penalty by torture for anyone who does negotiate with terrorists (Yes I know this would never happen, so what?).
>
> >
>
> > That having been said Israel has negotiated with terrorists in the past and I don't think teenagers should be used to establish the precedent when older kidnapped victims have been negotiated for in the past.
>
> >
>
> > I was just curious what others thought about this, especially those who like me believe terrorists should not be negotiated with.
>
> >
>
> > I hope they are rescued in good health and returned to their families soon.
>
>
>
> Breaking my rule again.
>
>
>
> If the captors are terrorists (as opposed to kidnappings for money),
>
> then the only negotiating I would do would be "Release them unharmed in
>
> 6 hours or we will totally destroy all the villages you come from and
>
> whoever is killed in the process will be on your heads."
>
>
>
> IOW, massive retaliation and world opinion be damned.
>
>
Would you say that if one of the kidnapped boys was your grandson?
Henry Goodman

sheldonlg

6/17/2014 2:57:00 PM

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On 6/17/2014 9:18 AM, henry.dot.goodman.at.virgin.net wrote:
> On Monday, June 16, 2014 7:56:25 PM UTC+1, shel...@thevillages.net wrote:

>> IOW, massive retaliation and world opinion be damned.
>>
>>
> Would you say that if one of the kidnapped boys was your grandson?
> Henry Goodman

Probably not, but I would also know that I would be doing that for
purely selfish reasons and not for the good of my country.

--
Shelly

JJ

6/17/2014 4:38:00 PM

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"news" <news@fx10.iad.highwinds-media.com> wrote in message
news:vtivp95u5uifs8p4eclrrmsj9h3uc5l3bi@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:56:25 +0000 (UTC), Shelly
> <sheldonlg@thevillages.net> wrote:
>
>>On 6/16/2014 2:49 PM, David Makowsky wrote:
>>> This is regarding the three teenage boys who were kidnapped in Israel.
>>>
>>> I don't think terrorists should ever be negotiated with (One POSSIBLE
>>> exception would be something along the lines of someone making a
>>> credible claim that they will kill millions of people with nukes unless
>>> .., but I am not discussing that now). In fact I think there should be
>>> a worldwide law demanding an immediate death penalty by torture for
>>> anyone who does negotiate with terrorists (Yes I know this would never
>>> happen, so what?).
>>>
>>> That having been said Israel has negotiated with terrorists in the past
>>> and I don't think teenagers should be used to establish the precedent
>>> when older kidnapped victims have been negotiated for in the past.
>>>
>>> I was just curious what others thought about this, especially those who
>>> like me believe terrorists should not be negotiated with.
>>>
>>> I hope they are rescued in good health and returned to their families
>>> soon.
>>
>>Breaking my rule again.
>>
>>If the captors are terrorists (as opposed to kidnappings for money),
>>then the only negotiating I would do would be "Release them unharmed in
>>6 hours or we will totally destroy all the villages you come from and
>>whoever is killed in the process will be on your heads."
>>
>>IOW, massive retaliation and world opinion be damned.
>
> That kind of approach will really go far towards peace in the Middle
> East.
>


That kind of approach also very likely will not work. You are dealing with
fanatics who believe that dying for the cause is greatly rewarded in heaven.
They also know that if Israel massively bombs ANYTHING the world media will
be there, and it will appear on every TV screen in the world, and this
horror will be a tremendous PR coup against Israel.

Jay



sheldonlg

6/17/2014 5:19:00 PM

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On 6/17/2014 12:37 PM, JJ wrote:
> "news" <news@fx10.iad.highwinds-media.com> wrote in message
> news:vtivp95u5uifs8p4eclrrmsj9h3uc5l3bi@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:56:25 +0000 (UTC), Shelly
>> <sheldonlg@thevillages.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/16/2014 2:49 PM, David Makowsky wrote:
>>>> This is regarding the three teenage boys who were kidnapped in Israel.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think terrorists should ever be negotiated with (One POSSIBLE
>>>> exception would be something along the lines of someone making a
>>>> credible claim that they will kill millions of people with nukes unless
>>>> .., but I am not discussing that now). In fact I think there should be
>>>> a worldwide law demanding an immediate death penalty by torture for
>>>> anyone who does negotiate with terrorists (Yes I know this would never
>>>> happen, so what?).
>>>>
>>>> That having been said Israel has negotiated with terrorists in the past
>>>> and I don't think teenagers should be used to establish the precedent
>>>> when older kidnapped victims have been negotiated for in the past.
>>>>
>>>> I was just curious what others thought about this, especially those who
>>>> like me believe terrorists should not be negotiated with.
>>>>
>>>> I hope they are rescued in good health and returned to their families
>>>> soon.
>>>
>>> Breaking my rule again.
>>>
>>> If the captors are terrorists (as opposed to kidnappings for money),
>>> then the only negotiating I would do would be "Release them unharmed in
>>> 6 hours or we will totally destroy all the villages you come from and
>>> whoever is killed in the process will be on your heads."
>>>
>>> IOW, massive retaliation and world opinion be damned.
>>
>> That kind of approach will really go far towards peace in the Middle
>> East.
>>
>
>
> That kind of approach also very likely will not work. You are dealing with
> fanatics who believe that dying for the cause is greatly rewarded in heaven.
> They also know that if Israel massively bombs ANYTHING the world media will
> be there, and it will appear on every TV screen in the world, and this
> horror will be a tremendous PR coup against Israel.
>
> Jay

Well, Israel is doing the next best thing. It has rounded up and
arrested 200 from the West Bank so far -- and counting.


--
Shelly

JJ

6/17/2014 5:44:00 PM

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"Shelly" <sheldonlg@thevillages.net> wrote in message
news:lnpsot$7l3$1@dont-email.me...
> On 6/17/2014 12:37 PM, JJ wrote:
>> "news" <news@fx10.iad.highwinds-media.com> wrote in message
>> news:vtivp95u5uifs8p4eclrrmsj9h3uc5l3bi@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:56:25 +0000 (UTC), Shelly
>>> <sheldonlg@thevillages.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/16/2014 2:49 PM, David Makowsky wrote:
>>>>> This is regarding the three teenage boys who were kidnapped in Israel.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think terrorists should ever be negotiated with (One POSSIBLE
>>>>> exception would be something along the lines of someone making a
>>>>> credible claim that they will kill millions of people with nukes
>>>>> unless
>>>>> .., but I am not discussing that now). In fact I think there should
>>>>> be
>>>>> a worldwide law demanding an immediate death penalty by torture for
>>>>> anyone who does negotiate with terrorists (Yes I know this would never
>>>>> happen, so what?).
>>>>>
>>>>> That having been said Israel has negotiated with terrorists in the
>>>>> past
>>>>> and I don't think teenagers should be used to establish the precedent
>>>>> when older kidnapped victims have been negotiated for in the past.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was just curious what others thought about this, especially those
>>>>> who
>>>>> like me believe terrorists should not be negotiated with.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope they are rescued in good health and returned to their families
>>>>> soon.
>>>>
>>>> Breaking my rule again.
>>>>
>>>> If the captors are terrorists (as opposed to kidnappings for money),
>>>> then the only negotiating I would do would be "Release them unharmed in
>>>> 6 hours or we will totally destroy all the villages you come from and
>>>> whoever is killed in the process will be on your heads."
>>>>
>>>> IOW, massive retaliation and world opinion be damned.
>>>
>>> That kind of approach will really go far towards peace in the Middle
>>> East.
>>>
>>
>>
>> That kind of approach also very likely will not work. You are dealing
>> with
>> fanatics who believe that dying for the cause is greatly rewarded in
>> heaven.
>> They also know that if Israel massively bombs ANYTHING the world media
>> will
>> be there, and it will appear on every TV screen in the world, and this
>> horror will be a tremendous PR coup against Israel.
>>
>> Jay
>
> Well, Israel is doing the next best thing. It has rounded up and arrested
> 200 from the West Bank so far -- and counting.
>
>
> --
> Shelly


.... and it is considering expelling them from the (almost prosperous) West
Bank to (desert like, no imports or exports) Gaza.

Jay




mm

6/17/2014 5:58:00 PM

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On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 16:37:54 +0000 (UTC), "JJ" <dmr1860@gmail.com>
wrote:

>"news" <news@fx10.iad.highwinds-media.com> wrote in message
>news:vtivp95u5uifs8p4eclrrmsj9h3uc5l3bi@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:56:25 +0000 (UTC), Shelly
>> <sheldonlg@thevillages.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 6/16/2014 2:49 PM, David Makowsky wrote:
>>>> This is regarding the three teenage boys who were kidnapped in Israel.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think terrorists should ever be negotiated with (One POSSIBLE
>>>> exception would be something along the lines of someone making a
>>>> credible claim that they will kill millions of people with nukes unless
>>>> .., but I am not discussing that now). In fact I think there should be
>>>> a worldwide law demanding an immediate death penalty by torture for
>>>> anyone who does negotiate with terrorists (Yes I know this would never
>>>> happen, so what?).
>>>>
>>>> That having been said Israel has negotiated with terrorists in the past
>>>> and I don't think teenagers should be used to establish the precedent
>>>> when older kidnapped victims have been negotiated for in the past.
>>>>
>>>> I was just curious what others thought about this, especially those who
>>>> like me believe terrorists should not be negotiated with.
>>>>
>>>> I hope they are rescued in good health and returned to their families
>>>> soon.
>>>
>>>Breaking my rule again.
>>>
>>>If the captors are terrorists (as opposed to kidnappings for money),
>>>then the only negotiating I would do would be "Release them unharmed in
>>>6 hours or we will totally destroy all the villages you come from and
>>>whoever is killed in the process will be on your heads."
>>>
>>>IOW, massive retaliation and world opinion be damned.
>>
>> That kind of approach will really go far towards peace in the Middle
>> East.
>>
>
>
>That kind of approach also very likely will not work. You are dealing with
>fanatics who believe that dying for the cause is greatly rewarded in heaven.
>They also know that if Israel massively bombs ANYTHING the world media will
>be there, and it will appear on every TV screen in the world, and this
>horror will be a tremendous PR coup against Israel.
>
>Jay

Plus, the elephant in the room, Israelis are civilized and Shelly's plan
to kill innocents is not.

Maybe Shelly isn't either.


May the three boys be returned safely.
--

Meir
It is better to eat an onion in Jerusalem than a cockerel in Egypt. 1055CE

mm

6/17/2014 6:00:00 PM

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On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:43:30 +0000 (UTC), "JJ" <dmr1860@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>... and it is considering expelling them from the (almost prosperous) West
>Bank to (desert like, no imports or exports) Gaza.
>
>Jay

But Gaza has a nice beach, and a nice, pretty promenade, with palm
trees, that the Turks probably built.

--

Meir
It is better to eat an onion in Jerusalem than a cockerel in Egypt. 1055CE

Herman Rubin

6/17/2014 9:13:00 PM

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On 2014-06-16, Shelly <sheldonlg@thevillages.net> wrote:
> On 6/16/2014 2:49 PM, David Makowsky wrote:
>> This is regarding the three teenage boys who were kidnapped in Israel.

>> I don't think terrorists should ever be negotiated with (One POSSIBLE exception would be something along the lines of someone making a credible claim that they will kill millions of people with nukes unless .., but I am not discussing that now). In fact I think there should be a worldwide law demanding an immediate death penalty by torture for anyone who does negotiate with terrorists (Yes I know this would never happen, so what?).

>> That having been said Israel has negotiated with terrorists in the past and I don't think teenagers should be used to establish the precedent when older kidnapped victims have been negotiated for in the past.

>> I was just curious what others thought about this, especially those who like me believe terrorists should not be negotiated with.

>> I hope they are rescued in good health and returned to their families soon.

> Breaking my rule again.

> If the captors are terrorists (as opposed to kidnappings for money),
> then the only negotiating I would do would be "Release them unharmed in
> 6 hours or we will totally destroy all the villages you come from and
> whoever is killed in the process will be on your heads."

> IOW, massive retaliation and world opinion be damned.

I believe you have stated a too strong penalty, but a strong
one is needed. And while we are at it, tell Hamas that for
every rocket fired at Israel, so much land will be taken from
the Gaza strip and the current occupants removed, and if someone
is killed, it goes up by a large factor.


--
This address is for information only. I do not claim that these views
are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
hrubin@stat.purdue.edu Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558

Herman Rubin

6/17/2014 11:55:00 PM

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On 2014-06-17, news <news@fx10.iad.highwinds-media.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:56:25 +0000 (UTC), Shelly
><sheldonlg@thevillages.net> wrote:

>>On 6/16/2014 2:49 PM, David Makowsky wrote:
>>> This is regarding the three teenage boys who were kidnapped in Israel.

>>> I don't think terrorists should ever be negotiated with (One POSSIBLE exception would be something along the lines of someone making a credible claim that they will kill millions of people with nukes unless .., but I am not discussing that now). In fact I think there should be a worldwide law demanding an immediate death penalty by torture for anyone who does negotiate with terrorists (Yes I know this would never happen, so what?).

>>> That having been said Israel has negotiated with terrorists in the past and I don't think teenagers should be used to establish the precedent when older kidnapped victims have been negotiated for in the past.

>>> I was just curious what others thought about this, especially those who like me believe terrorists should not be negotiated with.

>>> I hope they are rescued in good health and returned to their families soon.

>>Breaking my rule again.

>>If the captors are terrorists (as opposed to kidnappings for money),
>>then the only negotiating I would do would be "Release them unharmed in
>>6 hours or we will totally destroy all the villages you come from and
>>whoever is killed in the process will be on your heads."

>>IOW, massive retaliation and world opinion be damned.

> That kind of approach will really go far towards peace in the Middle
> East.

It might very well. The only thing which has ever gotten Muslims to
assent is when they were beaten, or when they faced worse.

> --
> Francis Xavier Turlough
> University of the Witwatersrand
> Johannesburg
> South Africa


--
This address is for information only. I do not claim that these views
are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
hrubin@stat.purdue.edu Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558

Higgs Boson

6/18/2014 5:43:00 AM

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On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 10:59:47 AM UTC-7, googy wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:43:30 +0000 (UTC), "JJ" <dmr1860@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> >... and it is considering expelling them from the (almost prosperous) West
>
> >Bank to (desert like, no imports or exports) Gaza.
>
> >
>
> >Jay
>
>
>
> But Gaza has a nice beach, and a nice, pretty promenade, with palm
>
> trees, that the Turks probably built.
>
Also luxurious sea-side villas where the master class has always lived, while they plant the am ha'aretz around strategic targets, like where they locate bomb centers, to deter Israeli response.
like
G.