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6/11/2009 3:27:00 PM

Looks like the RAA is "not only merely dead. She's really most
sincerely dead".

http://raa.ruby...

Notice SPAM, notice no new projects, etc.

Maybe it's time to take the site down? It can't possible reflect well
on Ruby.

Just a passing thought,
T.

39 Answers

Tim Pease

6/11/2009 4:12:00 PM

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On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Trans<transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks like the RAA is "not only merely dead. She's really most
> sincerely dead".
>
> =A0http://raa.ruby...
>
> Notice SPAM, notice no new projects, etc.
>
> Maybe it's time to take the site down? It can't possible reflect well
> on =A0Ruby.
>

You could create an RAA github account and siphon over all the source
code into git repositories. Just for posterity. There is still some
good stuff there.

Blessings,
TwP

Daniel Berger

6/11/2009 5:11:00 PM

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trans [mailto:transfire@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:27 AM
> To: ruby-talk ML
> Subject: RIP RAA
>
> Looks like the RAA is "not only merely dead. She's really most
> sincerely dead".
>
> http://raa.ruby...
>
> Notice SPAM, notice no new projects, etc.
>
> Maybe it's time to take the site down? It can't possible reflect well
> on Ruby.

I don't see any spam. I do see 5 new projects listed in the last week.

Not everyone has their project on RF or Github.

Regards,

Dan


Gregory Brown

6/11/2009 5:15:00 PM

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On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Daniel Berger<djberg96@gmail.com> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Trans [mailto:transfire@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:27 AM
>> To: ruby-talk ML
>> Subject: RIP RAA
>>
>> Looks like the RAA is "not only merely dead. She's really most
>> sincerely dead".
>>
>> =A0 http://raa.ruby...
>>
>> Notice SPAM, notice no new projects, etc.
>>
>> Maybe it's time to take the site down? It can't possible reflect well
>> on =A0Ruby.
>
> I don't see any spam. I do see 5 new projects listed in the last week.

Click through them.

-greg

Daniel Berger

6/11/2009 5:58:00 PM

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory Brown [mailto:gregory.t.brown@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:15 AM
> To: ruby-talk ML
> Subject: Re: RIP RAA
>=20
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Daniel Berger<djberg96@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Trans [mailto:transfire@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:27 AM
> >> To: ruby-talk ML
> >> Subject: RIP RAA
> >>
> >> Looks like the RAA is "not only merely dead. She's really most
> >> sincerely dead".
> >>
> >> =A0 http://raa.ruby...
> >>
> >> Notice SPAM, notice no new projects, etc.
> >>
> >> Maybe it's time to take the site down? It can't possible reflect
> well
> >> on =A0Ruby.
> >
> > I don't see any spam. I do see 5 new projects listed in the last
> week.
>=20
> Click through them.

Oh, I see it now. I looked at the first one (which is legit). The others =
are
indeed spam.

I don't mind if RAA goes away as long as those projects not on RF or =
Github
aren't lost.

Dan


P-Dub

10/20/2011 2:07:00 AM

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On 10/19/2011 4:31 PM, JohnB wrote:
> On Oct 19, 7:44 pm, "Raja, The Great"<zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Keyboards?... some one like Rick Wright, John Paul Jones or Rick
>> Wakeman or Keith Emerson
>>
>> Flute?... Ray Thomas, Ian Anderson or Peter Gabriel could have fit in?
>>
>> Saxophone? Nik Turner or David Jackson or Ian McDonald or Mel Collins
>>
> They were the Beatles, they could have anyone they wanted. Beatles
> records had piano, organ, sax, horns, harp, ful orchestras, etc.. They
> didn't *need* a fifth Beatle. They just hired what they needed. The
> point is that any other character would have had to fit into the
> spirit of the band and that would have been far more important than
> any particular instrument.
>
>
>> Or could they have a second guitarist? the one who could actually play
>> leads? ;-)
>
> You play guitar, do you? You can run off the lead from Till There Was
> You or Can't Buy Me Love or Something or The End in your sleep? No, I
> think not.
> Actually - they already had three guitarists and they could all play
> rhythm, lead or bass.

There was a 5th Beatle. His name was George Martin. He took many of the
Beatles' raw ideas, and helped craft them into musical magic and legend.

Toward the end, there was a 6th Beatle. His name was Billy Preston. You
can hear his keyboard on the White Album, Abbey Road, Let it Be, and the
'Hey Jude' album. He fit in perfectly.

P-Dub: Yoko was the anti-Beatle

Nil

10/20/2011 2:23:00 AM

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On 19 Oct 2011, P-Dub <pwolfe00@hotmail.com> wrote in
rec.music.beatles:

> Toward the end, there was a 6th Beatle. His name was Billy
> Preston. You can hear his keyboard on the White Album, Abbey Road,
> Let it Be, and the 'Hey Jude' album. He fit in perfectly.

I don't think Preston appears on the White Album.

Jeff

10/20/2011 3:38:00 AM

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On Oct 19, 5:43 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 19, 3:31 pm, JohnB <johnbo...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 19, 7:44 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:> Keyboards?... some one like Rick Wright, John Paul Jones or Rick
> > > Wakeman or Keith Emerson
>
> > > Flute?... Ray Thomas, Ian Anderson or Peter Gabriel could have fit in?
>
> > > Saxophone? Nik Turner or David Jackson or Ian McDonald or Mel Collins
>
> > They were the Beatles, they could have anyone they wanted. Beatles
> > records had piano, organ, sax, horns, harp, ful orchestras, etc.. They
> > didn't *need* a fifth Beatle. They just hired what they needed. The
> > point is that any other character would have had to fit into the
> > spirit of the band and that would have been far more important than
> > any particular instrument.
>
> Well since both Harrison and Starr didnt write many songs, may be they
> didn't need a 3rd Beatle? After all Lennon/McCartney could play it
> all. You missed my point.  I meant having another member who could
> play live. Majority of Beatles songs were unplayable live because of
> all the studio manipulations. No wonder they "stopped" touring.

They would have had to hire other musicians, had they played their
later music live. Other bands do it. They weren't interested.

> > > Or could they have a second guitarist? the one who could actually play
> > > leads? ;-)
>
> > You play guitar, do you?
>
> I play the keyboards... my fingers are not well adapted to play guitar
> or bass.
>
> >You can run off the lead from Till There Was
> > You or Can't Buy Me Love or Something or The End in your sleep? No, I
> > think not.
> > Actually - they already had three guitarists and they could all play
> > rhythm, lead or bass.
>
> Yeah they did. But none of them was a virtuoso lead guitarist by any
> means.... Could the Beatles have survived the guitar solo dominated
> 70s?

Their music didn't require a virtuoso lead guitarist.

JohnB

10/20/2011 8:19:00 AM

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On Oct 19, 11:43 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 19, 3:31 pm, JohnB <johnbo...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 19, 7:44 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:> Keyboards?... some one like Rick Wright, John Paul Jones or Rick
> > > Wakeman or Keith Emerson
>
> > > Flute?... Ray Thomas, Ian Anderson or Peter Gabriel could have fit in?
>
> > > Saxophone? Nik Turner or David Jackson or Ian McDonald or Mel Collins
>
> > They were the Beatles, they could have anyone they wanted. Beatles
> > records had piano, organ, sax, horns, harp, ful orchestras, etc.. They
> > didn't *need* a fifth Beatle. They just hired what they needed. The
> > point is that any other character would have had to fit into the
> > spirit of the band and that would have been far more important than
> > any particular instrument.
>
> Well since both Harrison and Starr didnt write many songs, may be they
> didn't need a 3rd Beatle? After all Lennon/McCartney could play it
> all. You missed my point.  I meant having another member who could
> play live. Majority of Beatles songs were unplayable live because of
> all the studio manipulations. No wonder they "stopped" touring.
>
The major reason they stopped touring was because the PA systems
available back then couldn't provide the power needed to overcome the
screaming from the fans. They couldn't hear each other, nevermind that
the audience could barely hear.
Oh, and I'd say the majority of the Beatles songs could be played live
quite easily, though they may have needed extra musicians - but loads
of bands do that these days. Even the Bootleg Beatles have performed
with a string quartet and horns section.
Oh, and though Harrison and Starr didn't contribute much in terms of
composition (though George could have later on), they still
contributed to the Beatles sound and image. Personality counts for
something you know.
>
>
> > > Or could they have a second guitarist? the one who could actually play
> > > leads? ;-)
>
> > You play guitar, do you?
>
> I play the keyboards... my fingers are not well adapted to play guitar
> or bass.
>
> >You can run off the lead from Till There Was
> > You or Can't Buy Me Love or Something or The End in your sleep? No, I
> > think not.
> > Actually - they already had three guitarists and they could all play
> > rhythm, lead or bass.
>
> Yeah they did. But none of them was a virtuoso lead guitarist by any
> means.... Could the Beatles have survived the guitar solo dominated
> 70s?

The 70s were dominated by guitar solos? Really? So tell me, who was
the lead guitarist in Abba or the Bee Gees or ELO or with David Bowie
or Elton John or any of the successful disco artists or any of the
major punk bands? Or do you not regard these as major 70s acts?

Jim Beam

10/20/2011 8:21:00 AM

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On Oct 19, 6:43 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 19, 3:31 pm, JohnB <johnbo...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 19, 7:44 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:> Keyboards?... some one like Rick Wright, John Paul Jones or Rick
> > > Wakeman or Keith Emerson
>
> > > Flute?... Ray Thomas, Ian Anderson or Peter Gabriel could have fit in?
>
> > > Saxophone? Nik Turner or David Jackson or Ian McDonald or Mel Collins
>
> > They were the Beatles, they could have anyone they wanted. Beatles
> > records had piano, organ, sax, horns, harp, ful orchestras, etc.. They
> > didn't *need* a fifth Beatle. They just hired what they needed. The
> > point is that any other character would have had to fit into the
> > spirit of the band and that would have been far more important than
> > any particular instrument.
>
> Well since both Harrison and Starr didnt write many songs, may be they
> didn't need a 3rd Beatle? After all Lennon/McCartney could play it
> all. You missed my point.  I meant having another member who could
> play live. Majority of Beatles songs were unplayable live because of
> all the studio manipulations. No wonder they "stopped" touring.
>
>
>
> > > Or could they have a second guitarist? the one who could actually play
> > > leads? ;-)
>
> > You play guitar, do you?
>
> I play the keyboards... my fingers are not well adapted to play guitar
> or bass.
>
> >You can run off the lead from Till There Was
> > You or Can't Buy Me Love or Something or The End in your sleep? No, I
> > think not.
> > Actually - they already had three guitarists and they could all play
> > rhythm, lead or bass.
>
> Yeah they did. But none of them was a virtuoso lead guitarist by any
> means.... Could the Beatles have survived the guitar solo dominated
> 70s?

Are you nuts? Lennon was a student of the 50's, Chuck Berry, Buddy
Holly and so on.
Would of loved hearing Keith Richards on the "White Album".

Fattuchus

10/20/2011 8:38:00 AM

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On Oct 19, 10:06 pm, P-Dub <pwolf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/19/2011 4:31 PM, JohnB wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 19, 7:44 pm, "Raja, The Great"<zepflo...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> Keyboards?... some one like Rick Wright, John Paul Jones or Rick
> >> Wakeman or Keith Emerson
>
> >> Flute?... Ray Thomas, Ian Anderson or Peter Gabriel could have fit in?
>
> >> Saxophone? Nik Turner or David Jackson or Ian McDonald or Mel Collins
>
> > They were the Beatles, they could have anyone they wanted. Beatles
> > records had piano, organ, sax, horns, harp, ful orchestras, etc.. They
> > didn't *need* a fifth Beatle. They just hired what they needed. The
> > point is that any other character would have had to fit into the
> > spirit of the band and that would have been far more important than
> > any particular instrument.
>
> >> Or could they have a second guitarist? the one who could actually play
> >> leads? ;-)
>
> > You play guitar, do you? You can run off the lead from Till There Was
> > You or Can't Buy Me Love or Something or The End in your sleep? No, I
> > think not.
> > Actually - they already had three guitarists and they could all play
> > rhythm, lead or bass.
>
> There was a 5th Beatle. His name was George Martin. He took many of the
> Beatles' raw ideas, and helped craft them into musical magic and legend.

Martin also played piano or some other keyboard on a few songs like
Little Child (I think) and In My Life.


>
> Toward the end, there was a 6th Beatle. His name was Billy Preston. You
> can hear his keyboard on the White Album, Abbey Road, Let it Be, and the
> 'Hey Jude' album. He fit in perfectly.
>
> P-Dub: Yoko was the anti-Beatle- Hide quoted text -
>
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