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Is Visual C++ totally free?

Sanny

11/21/2008 10:53:00 AM

I am newbie in VC++

I visited http://www.microsoft.com/express...

Here it says I can download VC++. Is it completely free to download?

There are two downloads One in green other in yellow which one should
I download.

Will I be able to create Applications with the free version?

Will the program made with free version run on all Computers?

Windows 98/ XP/ Vista/ Mac OS Will all of them be able to run the
Program?

What is the size of download. Is the free version Stable and error
free?

How many days will it take for me to leanrn VC++? Is it a simple
language?

What is the Cost of Buying Visual C++. Is it totally free?

There is one Offline download. How much time it will take to download
Complete VC++?

Bye
Sanny


36 Answers

Rolf Magnus

11/21/2008 11:12:00 AM

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Sanny wrote:

> I am newbie in VC++
>
> I visited http://www.microsoft.com/express...
>
> Here it says I can download VC++. Is it completely free to download?

There is a free version that is limited. But AFAIK, the compiler is the same
as in the commercial version.

> There are two downloads One in green other in yellow which one should
> I download.
>
> Will I be able to create Applications with the free version?

Yes.

> Will the program made with free version run on all Computers?

By far not.

> Windows 98/ XP/ Vista/ Mac OS Will all of them be able to run the
> Program?

No.

> What is the size of download. Is the free version Stable and error
> free?

I'd expect it to be about as stable and error free as the commercial one.
Or do you think that someone deliberately added bugs to the free version?

> How many days will it take for me to leanrn VC++?

Depends on your previous knowledge and how fast a learner you are.

> Is it a simple language?

No.

> What is the Cost of Buying Visual C++. Is it totally free?

This is not a shop. Ask someone who sells software.

> There is one Offline download.

How's an "offline download" supposed to work?

> How much time it will take to download Complete VC++?

That depends on your intenet connection, I guess.

osmium

11/21/2008 1:06:00 PM

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"Sanny" wrote:

> How many days will it take for me to leanrn VC++? Is it a simple
> language?

Think in terms of hundreds of days, not tens of days. Note that VC++ is a
_product_, not a language. The C++ language is hugely complex and is the
result of many minds, resulting in a lot of inconsistency. Think of welding
English onto Esperanto. You can also use baling wire, rope, bolts, brazing,
soldering or vines you find laying around to attach the two languages.


PvdG42

11/21/2008 2:20:00 PM

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"Sanny" <softtanks@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:33af1c7b-df89-49e2-83ab-feba9f86dadb@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>I am newbie in VC++
>
> I visited http://www.microsoft.com/express...
>
> Here it says I can download VC++. Is it completely free to download?
>
> There are two downloads One in green other in yellow which one should
> I download.
>
> Will I be able to create Applications with the free version?
>
> Will the program made with free version run on all Computers?
>
> Windows 98/ XP/ Vista/ Mac OS Will all of them be able to run the
> Program?
>
> What is the size of download. Is the free version Stable and error
> free?
>
> How many days will it take for me to leanrn VC++? Is it a simple
> language?
>
> What is the Cost of Buying Visual C++. Is it totally free?
>
> There is one Offline download. How much time it will take to download
> Complete VC++?
>
> Bye
> Sanny
>
The Express edition is totally free. How long it will take you to download
depends on factors not in evidence, like the speed of your internet
connection.
If the express edition will allow you to create an empty C++ console
project, *and* you write only ISO standard C++ code, then that code should
be capable of being recompiled (possibly as is, possibly with minor
modification) on any platform where there is a C++ compiler available. I
don't use the Express edition, so I cannot be sure that project type will be
there.
As you've been told, C++ is very complex and feature-rich. The learning
curve is steep, but worth the effort, IMHO.

Alex Blekhman

11/21/2008 3:03:00 PM

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"osmium" wrote:
>> How many days will it take for me to leanrn VC++? Is it a
>> simple language?
>
> Think in terms of hundreds of days, not tens of days.


http://norvig.com/21...

:)

Alex


Tommy

11/21/2008 3:27:00 PM

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Sanny wrote:

> How many days will it take for me to leanrn VC++? Is it a simple
> language?

If you have to ask, then you will be frustrated. It will not be
measured in days, but many months and years. Programming is a LIFE
thing, you either like it or you don't and be ready to long nights.
But if you enjoy programming, it should come easy to you.

You might consider starting with C first. The two go together, then
C++ will follow. But it all depends on your mentally.

--

Sherm Pendley

11/21/2008 5:17:00 PM

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Rolf Magnus <ramagnus@t-online.de> writes:

> Sanny wrote:
>
>> There is one Offline download.
>
> How's an "offline download" supposed to work?

It's poorly named, but it's actually pretty useful. The "online"
installer is quite small, but needs to connect to the internet and
download the components you want. It's nice if you want to install it
on a single PC with an always-on net connection.

The "offline" installer is entirely self-contained. It's huge, but once
you download it you have no further need for a net connection. It's
useful if you want to install on a PC that's not connected, or if you
have a bunch of PCs you can download it once and put it on a file server
or CD.

sherm--

--
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Erik Wikström

11/21/2008 5:46:00 PM

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On 2008-11-21 11:53, Sanny wrote:
> I am newbie in VC++
>
> I visited http://www.microsoft.com/express...
>
> Here it says I can download VC++. Is it completely free to download?

Yes, but there might be some limitations such that you might not be
allowed to download it if your are a terrorist.

> There are two downloads One in green other in yellow which one should
> I download.

The yellow. The green is Visual C#, which is something else.

> Will I be able to create Applications with the free version?

Yes.

> Will the program made with free version run on all Computers?
>
> Windows 98/ XP/ Vista/ Mac OS Will all of them be able to run the
> Program?

No, only on computers running Windows (might not work on Windows 98 or
earlier). Of course, if you keep your code portable (by not using any
platform specific stuff) you can always recompile your code on whatever
other platforms you want to run it on.

> What is the size of download. Is the free version Stable and error
> free?

About as stable and error free as you might expect of software of this
size and complexity.

> How many days will it take for me to leanrn VC++? Is it a simple
> language?

Very long, but with a good book your should be up and writing small
applications in a matter of days (depending on how much time and effort
you put into it).

> What is the Cost of Buying Visual C++. Is it totally free?

There are several versions of Visual C++ (or rather Visual Studio), the
Express edition that you are looking at downloading is totally free, the
other versions costs a lot of money and you should not consider buying
any of them at the moment.

--
Erik Wikström

Timothy Madden

11/21/2008 8:10:00 PM

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Sanny wrote:
> I am newbie in VC++
>
> I visited http://www.microsoft.com/express...
>
> Here it says I can download VC++. Is it completely free to download?
>
> There are two downloads One in green other in yellow which one should
> I download.
>
> Will I be able to create Applications with the free version?
>
> Will the program made with free version run on all Computers?
>
> Windows 98/ XP/ Vista/ Mac OS Will all of them be able to run the
> Program?
>
> What is the size of download. Is the free version Stable and error
> free?
>
> How many days will it take for me to leanrn VC++? Is it a simple
> language?
>
> What is the Cost of Buying Visual C++. Is it totally free?
>
> There is one Offline download. How much time it will take to download
> Complete VC++?

Hy Sanny,

This newsgroup discusses C++ as a language, not Visual C++, which
is a product. Visual C++ is only an implementation, but there
are many, many others. Here we are discussing about the standard
(it is called ISO 14882). For more details about VC++ I am sure
you can find a VC++ newsgroup provided by Microsoft.

That said, C++ is for sure not an easy language to learn, but if
you manage to learn it properly (I mean C++, not VC++) your
programs should be able to compile and run on a variety of
computers. But if fast learning is what you want, you would
better choose another language.

Programmes that you have compiled only run on the platform that
they were compiled to run on. Think of a platform as a combination
of CPU and operating system. In your case for example the platform
would be Intel 386 on Windows or i386-win for short (even if you
have a better processor in your computer). If you want your
program to run on any computer you should compile it on every
computer, or at a minimum you must compile it on every platform.
Using the source code directly to distribute your program, instead of
the already compiled program is the way to achieve this portability.

If you want a totally free compiler, I am sure you can find a good
quality one if you search the internet careful enough.

Hope that helps,
Timothy Madden

Sherm Pendley

11/21/2008 8:15:00 PM

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Timothy Madden <terminatorul@gmail.com> writes:

> This newsgroup discusses C++ as a language, not Visual C++, which
> is a product.

True enough about comp.lang.c++, but his message was also cross-posted
to the microsoft.public.vc.language group.

> For more details about VC++ I am sure
> you can find a VC++ newsgroup provided by Microsoft.

He did. :-)

sherm--

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Lynn McGuire

11/21/2008 8:23:00 PM

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> How many days will it take for me to leanrn VC++?

10,000 hours:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/nov/15/malcolm-gladwell-outlie...

> Is it a simple language?

Yes and No.

Lynn