Zadok
9/24/2008 10:28:00 AM
"LiamToo" <liamtoo111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 23, 9:29 pm, "Zadok" <nob...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
> "LiamToo" <liamtoo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6ed72c5b-ed37-4f79-a51d-859968f7c23c@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 23, 8:33 pm, "Zadok" <nob...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
>
> > "LiamToo" <> wrote in message ...
> > >DUH, I wasn't there. What do I care if he ever read it or not? It's in
> > >his collection.
>
> > Fine, lets examine his collection!!
>
> > OOOOPS.
> >What oooops? Go ahead, get a copy and examine it. Here's the citation
> >again.
> >"The first clear references to it are made by Firmilian, Bishop of
> >C?sarea in Cappadocia (third century), in his Epistle to Cyprian, ?6
> >(Ep. 74, in the collection of Cyprian?s Epistles, Ante-Nicene
> >Fathers,
> >Am. ed., V. p. 391)
>
> Hey Lame. I looked that Epistle up.
> Epistle LXXIV.1
> Firmilian, Bishop of Caesarea in Cappadocia, to Cyprian, Against the
Letter
> of Stephen. a.d. 256.
>
> Now lets look at # 6 shall we??
>
> 6. But that they who are at Rome do not observe those things in all cases
> which are handed down from the beginning, and vainly pretend the authority
> of the apostles;10 any one may know also from the fact, that concerning
the
> celebration of Easter, and concerning many other sacraments of divine
> matters, he may see that there are some diversities among them, and that
all
> things are not observed among them alike, which are observed at Jerusalem,
> just as in very many other provinces also many things are varied because
of
> the difference of the places and names.11 And yet on this account there is
> no departure at all from the peace and unity of the Catholic Church, such
as
> Stephen has now dared to make;12 breaking the peace against you, which his
> predecessors have always kept with you in mutual love and honour, even
> herein defaming Peter and Paul the blessed apostles,13 as if the very men
> delivered this who in their epistles execrated heretics, and warned us to
> avoid them. Whence it appears that this tradition is of men which
maintains
> heretics, and asserts that they have baptism, which belongs to the Church
> alone.
>What do you understand of the above, especially "even herein defaming
>Peter and Paul the blessed apostles.
>
> Now, it becomes a stretch to say that (their epistles) has anything to do
> with 2 Peter!!
>2 Peter is part of the NT canon. Cry all you want and we don't care.
>We will not take it out of the NT canon.
Run Lame, Run.