RD Sandman
2/10/2013 8:00:00 PM
David Johnston <David@block.net> wrote in news:kf74f4$rfr$1@dont-
email.me:
> On 2/9/2013 2:29 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>> David Johnston <David@block.net> wrote in
>> news:kf6dm4$78u$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 2/9/2013 1:45 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>>>> David Johnston <David@block.net> wrote in
>>>> news:kf67qt$2e3$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/9/2013 11:37 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
>>>>>> David Johnston <David@block.net> wrote in
>>>>>> news:kf3tvf$f54$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/8/2013 12:45 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
>>>>>>>> David Johnston <David@block.net> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:kf1ov6$2t9$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/5/2013 8:42 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The President Decides He Can Kill US Citizens Without
>>>>>>>>>> Making a Case to a Judge
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He always could. In wartime. If Americans want to declare
>>>>>>>>> peace, well that's up to them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Interesting that this item is rather quiet in the media, yet
>>>>>>>> those same outlets went ballistic on some dudes being
>>>>>>>> waterboarded. Are we saying that rather then torture a few of
>>>>>>>> our enemies it is better and more ethical to kill some of our
>>>>>>>> citizens?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You appear to be confused. "citizen" and "enemy" are not
mutually
>>>>>>> exclusive categories. And yes, they are saying that it more
>>>>>>> ethical to kill your enemies than it is to capture and torture
>>>>>>> them. The Geneva Convention agrees.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you agree that Obama and his administration can be judge,
jury
>>>>>> and executioner of American citizens without a trial?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would (alleged) terrorists with American passports have
>>>>> different rules of engagement than any other (alleged) terrorist?
>>>>
>>>> Slight change of subject there, eh? I did not say terrorists with
>>>> Americans passports......I distinctly said.....let me check....yep,
>>>> there it is right up above....."American citizens".
>>>
>>> Terrorists with American passports are American citizens.
>>
>> Not necessarily and in many cases that distinction is necessary.
>>
>>>> Why would
>>>>> Obama's administration be treated differently than any other
>>>>> administration?
>>>>
>>>> What other administration has declared that power?
>>>
>>> Any wartime administration has the power to kill enemy personnel who
>>> have not yet surrendered regardless of their citizenship. If
>>> Americans have a problem with that, maybe they should consider ending
>>> the AUMF.
>>
>> I have a problem with American citizens being killed by their
government
>> without due process.Don't you?
>
> The "due process" for dealing with enemies in a war is to shoot and
> bomb them until they die or surrender. If you want a different set of
> rules, if you want to start treating alleged terrorists as criminals
> rather than military enemies, then I suggest you write to your
> legislator and ask him to end the Authorization to Use Military Force.
>
> If not, then I should not expect to
>> hear any whining from you over waterboarding or torture.
>
> Torture is a violation of the Geneva Convention. Killing the enemy is
> only a violation if they have already surrendered.
>
>
IOW, you have no problem with the president being able to kill US
citizens without due process. Good to know.
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RD (The Sandman
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