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3 Answers

Tag Heuer

6/5/2011 7:43:00 PM

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On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 09:16:08 -1000, "Jerry Okamura"
<okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:


>"Harry Hope" wrote in message
>news:84knu61auremdgjcpinae1h5d409ct2j5f@4ax.com...
>
>
>http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/the-audacity-of-paul-ryan-s-whining-123181828.ht...
>
>Jun. 5, 2011
>
>The audacity of Paul Ryan's whining
>
>By John Brummett
>
>...............................................................................................
>
>Ryan got his feelings hurt that the White House called his
>Medicare-ending voucher plan a Medicare-ending voucher plan.
>
>So, in what Republicans called a dramatic moment, he confronted the
>president in Obama's gathering Wednesday at the White House with
>Republican House members.
>
>Ryan asked the president to stop misrepresenting his plan.
>
>Obama was said to have chuckled that he knew a little about
>misrepresentations and to have acknowledged that we need cooperation
>on entitlement reform.
>
>Later, his press spokesman, Jay Carney, said the White House calls
>Ryan's plan a voucher plan because that's what it is.
>
>Indeed, Ryan would end government single-payer health insurance for
>persons reaching retirement age 10 years from now.
>
>He would direct these seniors-to-be into the private health insurance
>marketplace, where they would get their insurance subsidized by a
>government payment based on a sliding scale according to personal
>means.
>
>That's a voucher.
>
>It's every bit as much a voucher as a government payment to a private
>school toward the admission of an underprivileged student.
>
>But Republicans don't like the word -- voucher -- even as they have
>long championed it in precise terms for education.
>
>.................................................................................
>
>Ryan's plan is much more thoroughly a voucher system than the federal
>tax on estates is a death tax, to cite a long-deft Republican trick.
>
>An estate tax is merely a reduction in the very highest margins of the
>very highest inheritances.
>
>The dead guy does not pay.
>
>He is gone.
>
>His lucky heirs get a little less of a lot.
>
>As it happens, Ryan also challenged the president for having said in
>speeches, one of which Ryan was forced to sit through, that House
>Republicans risked putting old people in the street and lopping off
>vital aid for disadvantaged and sick children.
>
>Ryan had more of a point there.
>
>...........................................................................................
>
>But Ryan was making this point to a man whom Republicans have called a
>socialist and a Muslim and a non-citizen.
>
>He was making it to a man whose health care reform bill the
>Republicans called "government-run" when it plainly is to be privately
>run.
>
>He was making it to a man whose own proposed cuts in Medicare, a
>government-run health care plan that Republicans defended only months
>ago when it suited their purposes, got subjected to the vicious lie
>that they would entail "death panels" that would decide which sick old
>people to let die in order to stay within the budget.
>
>It's hard to say you're sorry for an ugly exaggeration when you've
>endured so much more of the same, and worse.
>
>_______________________________________________________
>
>Poor Paul...
>
>Harry

>Can Medicare keep all the promises it has made?

Depends on what promises were made that YOU do believe or think it
cannot keep. Spare the Repugnant method in fallacy with this leading
question, or argument-by-question. Elaborate.
--
http://tagheuerblog.bl...

Jerry Okamura

6/5/2011 10:15:00 PM

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"Ray Fischer" wrote in message
news:4debe03a$0$2172$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>Can Medicare keep all the promises it has made?

Yes.

How?

Can you stop ignoring the repeated answers to your same questions?

Nope, not as long as people use evasion or ignore the facts.

rfischer

6/6/2011 2:31:00 AM

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Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>"Ray Fischer" wrote in message
>>Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>>>Can Medicare keep all the promises it has made?
>>
>>Yes.
>
>How?
>
>>Can you stop ignoring the repeated answers to your same questions?
>
>Nope,

Then I'm not going to waste my time.

--
Ray Fischer | Mendocracy (n.) government by lying
rfischer@sonic.net | The new GOP ideal